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Beiträge von Odegar1935

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 18:04
    Zitat von Lever

    Also wenn ein Offizieller aus Asiago, der sich hier so gibt, sagt, man müsse mal über den Tellerrand hinausblicken, kann man nur lauthals darüber lachen. Eine Öffentlichkeitsarbeit, die darin besteht Fans anderer Lager zu provozieren, ist an Peinlichkeit kaum zu überbieten.

    t's better than screaming at the conspiracy evey post

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 17:58
    Zitat von Foxes1933

    wer da aus der Provinz kommt ;)

    I just said that they have a provincial mentality, i don't care where they come from.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 11:34
    Zitat von bruneck73

    Hast recht!!! habe meine Aussage auch geändert. Wer das ital. Eishockey etwas kennt weiss eh was ich meine.J

    Just Brunek fans have this persecution mania. Maybe you have to realize that you are crying also for for episodes that occurred when the presidency was from South Tyrol.

    But probably you are right Asiago has the total conrol in Italy but also in IceHL :veryhappy: these are the facts

    Come on, waste your time with smarter reasoning

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 10:07
    Zitat von Alston

    Ok…..dann Spielen diese Saison Meran,Gröden,Ritten Sterzing und Unterland um den Scudetto,das ist auch ok👍

    and Fassa and Cortina

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 09:29
    Zitat von Alston

    Aber was ist jetzt mit nächstes Jahr genau gemeint:

    Ja-Feb.23 oder Saison 23-24???😅😅

    23/24

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 4. Juli 2022 um 09:28
    Zitat von The Marmot

    Habe sowieso immer mehr den Eindruck, dass der ital. Verband mit Präs. Gios Asiago ist, und Asiago mit Präs. Mantovani der ital. Verband ist.

    You all never cease to amaze me; you can always see a conspiracy against you and the favor of others; your attitude toward hockey is very depressing; you lead a very difficult life; you must change yourself; your team has accomplished so much, but you have remained the same provincial; I believe your comfort zone is in your thread where you speak in your dialect.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 3. Juli 2022 um 00:23

    So probably not this year but the next one Asiago Bolzano and Brunico will play for scudetto

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 30. Juni 2022 um 11:37
    Zitat von Power Block

    Komm schon, würde man in Padova Serie C spielen wollen,würde man sie mit offenen Armen willkomen heißen und sogar auf einen zugefrorenen Gartenteich spielen lassen.

    Das Problem ist dass sich dort keiner wirklich interressiert für Eishockey ergo auch das Geld fehlt.

    Was die Fans betrifft, glaub ich kaum dass es in großen Städten ohne Hockey Kultur leichter sein wird diese anzusprechen.Schau mal in Bruneck,Bozen und Asiago hast du 500-1000 treue Seelen die einfach jedes Spiel ansehen.Auf denen kann man aufbauen. In einer zufälligen italienischen Großstadt fehlen solche Leute komplett.Schau dir die Wiener Capitales an in einer Stadt mit 1,8 Millionen Einwohner einem recht erfolgerreichen gut organisierten Verein kommen sie auf einen Zuschauerschnitt von 3000-3500 Leute.Passt ja auch,aber die musste sie auch erst aufbauen,und auch dann ist es nicht so dass ihnen die Türen eingerannt werden.

    Das mit den großen Städten ist eine Illusion der man in Italien seit 30 Jahren hinterherrennt.Man muss schauen dass man die Struckturen die man hat optimal nützt.

    Z.b könnte der Verband mit einem Bruchteil des Geldes was jetzt für die Italos verpulvert wird,den Serie C vereinen eine kleine Finanzspritze geben das zumindest in Mailand nicht die Lichter ausgehen.

    Mailand ist sowiso extrem schade und komplett unverständlich.Eine solcher Standort mit der Tradition und Fanbase, praktisch der Geburtsort des italienischen Eishockey schafft es nicht in einer besseren Bierliga mitzuspielen, und wir reden von anderen großen Städten, da merkst du hoffentlich auch das dass ganze nie passieren wird, auch wenns schade ist.

    Alles anzeigen

    With the Federation money allocated for the italos you can buy a set of jerseys for each teams

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 30. Juni 2022 um 09:45
    Zitat von Foxes1933

    Wenn das Wörtchen "wenn" nicht wäre. Aber wenn man nicht einmal ein Serie C Team organisieren kann, dann ist es besser das Thema Hockey und Mailand zu Grabe zu tragen.

    Hockey ist in Italien regional verwurzelt, mit den Leuchttürmen in Südtirol und im Veneto. Dann hat man noch die paar im Trentino, Como und Varese in der Lombardei, Aosta, Valpe und Turin. Das wars dann auch. Man kann keine Hockeykultur von 0 aus dem Boden stampfen. Wer will bitte beispielsweise in Bologna oder Padova Hockey schauen gehen?

    I agree and this is the problem. The point is that there are no Ice arena in the main city. I know very well the situation in Padova, there is a quite good youth sector, there are really a good number of young guys that are playing, but the critical point is that the arena is no ready to play also a serie C. I'm sure that if there will be a team in Padova you'll be able to involve a large number of fans much more easily than in Asiago or Brunico. In the 80' years there were big/medium cities with hockey teams and hockey level was not so bad. The point is that in Italy there is not the hockey federation like in the other countries and the funding received by the CONI are too low. but this is a long a already discussed several times story. If we will not come out from a fundamentally provincial mentality we will never take a step forward, and I say this at the expense of reality as Asiago, and we will spend time discussing about imports and the youth sectors whose purpose will only remain to save a few euros to the organizations. in a nutshell, hockey is an expensive sport and in Italy there is not enough money to give it a different visibility and to invest in the Arena, only in region as Alto Adige there are so important contributions for the sport facilities

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. Juni 2022 um 23:04
    Zitat von Foxes1933

    why? Who cares about Milano?

    Cities like Milano would have for sure a big and positive impact on the Italian hockey, if someone with a minimum of competence will drive the organizations

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. Juni 2022 um 22:13
    Zitat von bruneck73

    Nur nochmal weil aus Asiago hier (zumindest von diesem User) dieses Hirngespinst von "das Eishockey muss man in die italienischen Städte bringen", kam:

    Die Mailand Bears haben heute verkündet, dass man 2022/23 keine Seniorenmannschaft stellt.... wegen mangelnden Sponsoren

    Believe me this is not a good news also for Brunico

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. Juni 2022 um 22:12
    Zitat von Foxes1933

    hat Asiago eigentlich schon realisiert, dass sie nicht mehr um den Scudetto spielen können? Werden sie das verkraften?

    The Italian championship was the main target for Asiago in the past years also because it is qualifying for the continental cup. I'm very sad that we'll no more compete for the scudetto, but it is correct in this way.

    I think that it is quite normal that an Italian team suffers of not playing for the national championship.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 28. Juni 2022 um 19:30
    Zitat von Dimplmoser

    What a nice player for Asago, and what a nice name.

    Good match I would say.

    3 years contract? I Think so. . ?

    Gazzola arrives and Caruso leaves

    It seems easy 😂😂😂

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 28. Juni 2022 um 12:00
    Zitat von Odegar1935

    Pietroniro brothers had a stormy divorce from Asiago, i see no chance for a their come back

    about Porco and Gazzola i read just in this forum that they are going to sign for Asiago but it could be

    Gazzola is coming

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 18:12

    Ice Party next Sunday in Asiago: the best news is free beer 🍻

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 17:06
    Zitat von Lever

    I think when Mentenuto or Salinitri is ready for the ICE then Tedesco is it for sure. Not only that, but I mean 68 Points in 39 games is excellent. With a Team like Fassa even more.

    Tedesco played the preseason with Asiago and he was not confirmed, my personal view is that there is a strong difference between salinitri/mantenuto and Tedesco. about the statistics consider That for Fassa there was just 1 line that signed points. But this is my personal view, and honestly speaking i' m nor sure about the impact that Salinitri will be able to have in IceHL

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 16:13
    Zitat von Lever

    Tedesco?

    I don't know but in my opinion he is no ready for the IceHL

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 16:12
    Zitat von Hansi79

    Oder sie holen einfach 15 Legios :saint: wer hat, der kann :P

    The Italos already ready to play as italian now are playing in BZ and Brunico so we have to start from the beginning, but it's life

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 16:10
    Zitat von Lever

    In which sense?

    in the last year in Asiago there were no feeling between medical and technical staff and the brothers, and the management didn't like it at all.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 15:58
    Zitat von Foxes1933

    Welche bereits eingebürgerten italos sind denn noch frei. Phil Pietroniro zieht es in die Slowakei.

    Mizzi wäre noch zu haben.

    Pietroniro brothers had a stormy divorce from Asiago, i see no chance for a their come back

    about Porco and Gazzola i read just in this forum that they are going to sign for Asiago but it could be

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 13:03
    Zitat von Oachwolf

    Ihope that the Italian federation and CONI makes clarity and transparency about this new policy and also other direct or indirect support to clubs (whichever these may be). We are talking about public money after all and I think on these matters full transparency is mandatory.

    For sure all the teams are aligned on this topic, the opportunity is not just for the IceHL teams but also for AlpsHL teams, then each team can use the contributions or not. these are the only news that i have.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 12:26
    Zitat von Oachwolf

    It is not so much the fact that you are newcomers, but more that the access conditions have been eased A LOT for you and Feldkirch, closing many many eyes on various issues...

    I understand for Asiago but why for Feldkirch?

    They have a nice Arena and also a long tradition which is the issue with them?

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 12:23

    Confirmed

    I'm not sure that he will be a crack in IceHL

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 11:48
    Zitat von Oachwolf

    there is not much simpathy for the 2 new teams, in the whole Liga, not just in Bruneck. And the forum appearance of the fans of both teams is not helping much at the moment.

    I think that it is quite normal that the last arrived raise different reactions even of disapproval.

    I hope that Asiago will live up to the league as for sure BZ but also Brunico did in his first year. I'm quite confident that it will happen, at the moment there are few and confused info about Asiago organization and team, this is a big opportunity and if Asiago will fail it i can not see future for the hockey there, it is a sort of all in.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 09:44
    Zitat von PatMan

    I'm sorry and I know that some HCP fans here are exaggerating, but with your appearance and how you give yourself you're not doing your team any favors. Stop to provoke others and better try to gain some positive spirit for your team. If you're really an official and this is how your work looks like I can totally understand, why there isn't a lot sympathy from Pustertal.

    I agree with you that the situation is unfriendly. But let me say that i just replicated to some hysterical moans. For sure it didn't start from a my post.

    Anyway i agree that I could have avoided the provocation

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