main goal of the federation should be to involve the big cities. But this is a very well known point.
I think since the decline of Milan, this is a utopia. The goal should be to support and maintain those locations where work is done hard and reliably at a high level, and to expand and consolidate the structures. Just because the location is big doesn't mean that things will be better there at length.
Probably you have to explain this to the Brunek fans in sonice forum
You consider Asiago far too important for Brunico than they actually are for us. The games are always a great battle and the fan bases don't like each other, but it's far away from it when Bolzano is our guest. Nothing can top that, we finally got to experience that again last season.
hab diesen Beitrag jetzt nur als Beispiel, es herrscht hier scheinbar aus Bruneck eine gewisse Abneigung nach Asiago (milde ausgedrückt) gab es hier früher etwas gröberes oder ist das "nur" eine normale Rivalität
Spätestens nach der Geschichte mit Strazzabosco war jeder noch so kulante Fan im Pustertal nicht mehr gut auf diese Truppe zu sprechen.
I think that the effort that Brunico, Bolzano and Asiago are doing for the youth activities are totally insufficient to have a real impact on the Italian hockey development
That's exactly why they're going to open an academy in Brunico and have made a cut in Bolzano, while in Asiago they're going to fill the places of the young Italians with any Italo they can find on the market. But all except those in Asiago are "stupid". We'll see which teams are better off after 2026.
I think that the Brunek fans consider Asiago the main enemy on the ice
The biggest rival is and remains Bolzano and that will also remain the only true derby in Brunico 
We don't know which players are in the list, the amount of the federation contribute
Obviously not really high. There has been exaggerated talk of bringing top AHL players to Italy who would otherwise sign in far better leagues. What has come so far and what is still to come is far away from that.
I would then be interested to see what happens after 2026 when the federation stops paying and many of the Italos leave Italy. Then some of them will have to be replaced with Italians, but they could hardly be developed in the previous 4 years when almost every place for Italians was filled by an Italo-Canadian.
Alles anzeigenWas ist aber, wenn sie das nicht tun?
- Muss man ihn trotzdem behalten?
- Bekommt man vom Verband einen neuen Spieler?
Oder das Gegenteil, einer der Spieler performt hervorragend und bekommt Angebote aus besseren Ligen.
- Muss er seine Zeit „absitzen“?
- Muss er Strafe zahlen, wenn er wechselt?
- Muss das Team, das ihn haben will, eine Ablöse an den Verband zahlen?
Sie wissen ja nicht mal was sie machen sollen, wenn sie einen Spieler jahrelang subventionieren und er dann 2026 doch keine Lust hat zu Olympia zu fahren. Gios selbst sagt dazu: „Das ist ein enormes Problem. Ich weiß leider nicht, wie es zu lösen ist. Es ergibt nämlich keinen Sinn, einen Profi zum Spielen zu zwingen, wenn er nicht hinter der Sache steht.“ Allein daran sieht man ja schon, dass das zum Scheitern verurteilt ist.
Please notice that at the moment BZ has signed 12 players for the next years and there are already 4 Italos and the new signed Frattin si in the same situation of Mascherin, so i think that any final consideration can be done at the end
In my opinion there are very clear rules and these rules are the same for all the teams, so the fact that you go crazy for every Italian surname is really hilarious
I know the rules and I don't question them, but I still think the procedure is questionable. That is just my opinion. I'm not going crazy in any way, I'm just expressing my opinion.
I don't deny Asiago the right to use this possibility of the federation, because they clearly follow the rules. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with the approach and that everyone else who doesn't take this route is an idiot.
I'm really enjoying to read the Brunek fans, you are hilarious
But i'm waiting that the Brunek youth teams will save the Italian Hockey
Nobody said we'd save it, but there will be a reason why Brunico, but also now Bolzano, are only going for those Italo-Canadians they absolutely need and are putting more emphasis on young Italians like Felicetti, Glück, Spinell, Mantinger, Berger, Pitschieler, etc.
Knoll, for example, is one of the best club managers in the entire league and if he doesn't jump on this plan of the federation but, just like Brunico, takes a different path that is more directed towards the future, with young Italians, then that will mean something.
Zähl noch Nicholas Porco, Nick Saracino und Randy Gazzola dazu
Gazzola auch ein Italo?
Luchuk als Center für Linz?
eher nicht 
Ist der Weg heuer ne solide Mannschaft zu präsententieren , wies Puschtertal macht, der richtige Kurs?
kann man da im speziellen Saison 22/23 mithalten, sollten viele Teams mit 2/3 oder mehr Stars (für diese Liga) antreten?
Gar etliche warten ab und fischen ne Etage höher, kristallisiert sich grad raus.
Ich denk, für Puschtertal wird das eng
Ein gutes Curriculum ist keine Garantie für gute Leistung und umgekehrt muss ein No-Name nicht eine Niete sein.
er hat ja drei Jahre Vertrag, ob er im September oder im Dezember am Eis steht ist dann egal
Also in Schweden sprach man nach der Operation im März von einer Rehazeit von etwa 8 Monaten. Deswegen war er dort auch kein Thema mehr.
@bruneck73
du warst schneller als ich 
Mit Jensen hat man sicherlich einen sehr guten Fang gemacht. Vom Potenzial her sicherlich nicht viel schlechter als Hanna.
Wenn man in so kurzer Zeit derart tief runtergeht, glaube ich kaum, dass sich Dornbirn so schnell wieder hochziehen kann. Wenn man momentan den Schritt in die ÖEL gehen muss, weil man nicht mal mehr die Alps stemmen kann, dann weiß man ja wie's um den Verein steht. Wäre man in der Alps geblieben wärs eine Sache, aber 2 Ligen und vom Niveau gefühlt 10 Klassen runter, das holst nicht einfach wieder auf.
In ein, zwei Jahren wird's in Dornbirn wieder mindestens ein Alpsteam geben.
Das wage ich zu bezweifeln.
The budget needed to develop hockey in Italy is no comparable with the money available for this olimpic plan. The budget is provided by the coni just for the Olimpic games not for the Brunico or Asiago youth teams, it is not so difficult to understand.
Nevertheless, the plan to bring numerous Italo-Canadians to Italy for the 2026 Olympics will be useless. As in 2006, we won't stand a chance at the tournament, regardless of how many Italo-Canadians are entered. In the end, even with the Italos, we won't succeed, but in the meantime we have spent vast amounts of money for nothing.
probably you are right, but I know tessari and in my opinion he wants to start the season without complete the roster to understand the betterment area
I'm surprised you guys are starting with Barasso since he has no experience at this level. We have extended the coach from the Alps at that time, that was a big mistake.
Sorry, dachte dies müsste klar sein. Der Verband hat einen Plan aufgestellt, unabhängig davon ob dieser gut oder schlecht ist. Wenn man sich als Verein entscheidet da nicht mitzuziehen, dann kann man davon ausgehen, dass dann die Unterstützungsbereitschaft von Verbandsseite eher schwindet (z.B. Unterstützung zur Ausrichtung von internationalen Turnierveranstaltungen oder Mitfinanzierung eines nationalen Leistungszentrums usw.).
Das würde vielleicht deinen Wunschvorstellungen entsprechen, aber so einfach ist das schon doch nicht. Sollte die geplante Akademie in Bruneck kommen, wird der Verband zwangsläufig einen Beitrag leisten müssen, alles andere wäre wohl kaum zu rechtfertigen – sowohl intern als auch extern.
I think that Asiago need 5 forwards (2C and 3 L/RW) and 2 defender to have play off ambitions
I think you will definitely have to exhaust the 10 import positions, as we did last season, since the new Italo-Canadians only get Italian status after 16 months. Especially in defense, you will need at least 4 strong imports after Miglioranzi will also go to Bolzano.
He can see also the yellow
Think rather that he doesn't want to miss a little side blow, as he always does here
What are your expectations of the team? Where do you place yourselves?
Warum wundert's mich nicht, dass der asiagoverliebte Bozner diesen Post liked? 
let me say again that the italos are not the Italian Hockey issue
They are not the main problem, but a big part of it because they are a tempting solution to avoid the time-consuming and costly development of young players. Why develop many young Italian players for years when you can naturalise Canadians who are 2-3 classes better than the Italians at almost no cost. This is why we are having the same discussion as we did more than 20 years ago before the 2006 Olympics and making the same mistakes over and over again.
I can not see any differences in the number of Italian players upgraded in the senior roster between Asiago and BZ or Brunico.
I can assure you that the 3 Italo-Canadians that Asiago now has under contract will be joined by at least 4 more, even if they are not official yet.
let me say that the Italos would take away places to young Italian players if Italian players there were. Believe me that Asiago invests a lot of effort and money in the youth teams, but the point is that in Italy there are too few practitioners. Are you proud of your team youth activity and senior roster managing? Please tell me which results your team archived in terms of strong players? i know the answer, your team has the chance to win thanks to Bardaro, Catenacci and other not Italian players.
None of the Italian-born players can play a supporting role in the ICEHL like the Italo-Canadians, so comparing them is hardly meaningful. It is true that in Italy has few players compared to other countries, but that hardly justifies signing Italo-Canadians in large numbers. It is possible to bring young players up to this level and develop them, as Bolzano or Pustertal have shown recently. It is clear that that they won't immediately take on a significant role; that takes time because the level is high.
A small number of Italo-Canadians is essential for Italian teams to survive in this league. But the question is whether you have to push the number of Italo-Canadians to the limit to start with 7-8 or more of them, like Asiago will do this year. I doubt that's necessary. I can assure you thatI dont see "red" just because you are an Asiago fan. This strategy was not only criticized by fans from Bruneck, but it has been strongly criticized by a large part of the hockey community in Italy in the last few weeks and months.
I hope thet the Italian teams will be smart enough to take advantage of the subsidies, it would be really stupid to give up,
Italian hockey is exactly where it is because of such more than just stupid plans. The federation should work out concepts for youth development like everyone else and invest the money there instead of spending it on a wave of Italo-Canadians. The fact that Gios even calls this a "plan" is ridiculous.
That Asiago is now signing numerous Italo-Canadians was to be expected, but one should also consider that these Italo-Canadians are taking away numerous places for young Italians. Asiago will certainly have a competitive team, but after 2026 there will be numerous young Italians missing.
