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Beiträge von kabidjan14

  • Div 1a/Kattowitz 29.4.2016 Österreich-Slowenien

    • kabidjan14
    • 30. April 2016 um 01:22
    Zitat von nordiques!

    Ok, in case you missed the main point of his statement: from the start of his work here, Suhonen always stressed, that Austria needs his own identity in hockey and one part to reach this goal is to train and develop austrian coaches for austrian players. Because at this time this species almost does not exist at a professional level here. So how to hire austrian staff, when in reality at this point there's not really much there to hire? These kind of things will need their time, but somebody has to start it. Thankfully Suhonen at least tries to change something here. And I think, Suhonen did right with Ratushny and Bader, but that's my personal opinion. Maybe Viveiros teams scored more goals, but it was his choice, to quit as coach once the season was over (just like Daum), only to change his mind, after he was unable to land a headcoaching job in the EBEL or somewhere else. At this time (and after the Sotschi-mess), it was no surprise (at least for me), that Suhonen did not plan with Viveiros anymore. Btw, last year's TopDiv Performance was one of the best of the last 10 years and today Austria could've also been the Nation to be promoted. So I can't agree with you, that Ratushny performed poorly. For sure not perfect, but this is not a perfect world. And he still has the task & mission to rebuild the squad (for reasons of +10 years of mismanagement at the NT-level) - with this kind of players, Viveiros imo never ever would've won against Germany and Switzerland or would've been in the race for promotion to the TopDiv. I'm not saying that Suhonen oder Ratushny are faultless (for example i'm questioning their communication with some - older - players), but when i compare their work with the last 10 years before, i know, what i prefer. Better small things are happening instead of nothing.


    I understood that he said that in context of building a coaching generation, and he has followed that up by holding many coaching clinics, however, when he said it at the press conference he said it continuous with the announcement on Viveiros, and the impression I got was that it was almost a polite excuse for the firing.
    Secondly, Viveiros never quit, he was let go. My german is terrible, but the meaning of the headline "Viveiros muss gehen" doesn't mean Viveiros is stepping down. I remember the split very well, perhaps as you said it was necessary because of the outrage after Sochi but he did not leave on his own accord. In fact Viveiros' comments after being let go were to the tune of "this is because of Suhonen, Kalt still likes me" (paraphrasing heavily) http://orf.at/stories/2227963/

    I think Bader was a good decision or at least the right idea. I think Ratushny was the right man, because he really healed a lot of the relationships between the program and the players, he was a good man, but he was not necessarily a good coach. The bolded part is not exactly accurate in my opinion. Ratushny was not given his players, he chose not to play Unterweger, Altmann, Obrist, Koch, Nodl and many others. He chose to play Fechtig, Lembacher, S.Geier, Oberkofler, etc. He was not given a poor hand, he created one for himself. Perhaps I am a Viveiros sympathizer but I do not think the program was mismanaged under Viveiros either. Viveiros perhaps had good players, but he also did not have Komarek, or Heinrich, or Manny Geier and even Stefan Ulmer has improved since 2013. Thus I do not think one can simply disregard beating Slovakia and Latvia in 2013, and getting promoted to top division very consistently under Viveiros. The coaching level has improved among the youth levels, I particularly like Andreas Brucker, and I see Austrian hockey going in an upwards trajectory. I think that the time for change has arrived, however, and fortunately it can take place without any hard feelings.

  • Div 1a/Kattowitz 29.4.2016 Österreich-Slowenien

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 23:42
    Zitat von nordiques!

    Dass sich in Österreich Eishockey mehr ändern muss, damit wirklich was weitergeht, ist ja nicht erst seit gestern klar. Suhonen, Bader & Co haben schon ein paar gute Ansätze und richtige Ideen, auch die Liga steht da zum Glück nicht immer quer, aber für den wirklichen Schritt nach vorne müsste man m.M.n. halt auch ein wenig über den Ego-Schatten springen und mal den Blick vom Einzelnen auf das Gesamte werfen. Weil im Ende wird das nur besser werden, wenn der Kontext zwischen Liga und NT wieder hergestellt wird - nur wenn sich beide befruchten und nicht behindern, kann das heimische Eishockey seine rändliche öffentliche Existens ablegen.


    Change is on the way, we can decide later for good or for ill. At the end of this season both Coach Ratushny and President Kalt are stepping down, and it is fully in Suhonen's rights and abilities to retire as well. Coach Ratushny, well I am glad he is leaving. In 2014 coach Viveiros' team scored 20 goals in 5 games in the D1A, this year Austria scored 11. In 2013 under Viveiros we scored 18 goals, more than Germany, France and Latvia and tied with Slovakia in our division for goals, though we still descended by giving up 29 goals. In 2015 under Ratushny we still gave up the same number, 29 goals, but we only scored 10 goals, the least of any team in the tournament. This not to mention our struggles scoring in friendly matches (0-4 Ungarn) and the EHT(1-2 Sudkorea, 1-5 und 2-6 Slowenien, 1-4 Frankreich). I know that Coach Ratushny is beloved among fans, however, he took the team that scored the most goals against Finland's A team in the Olympics and turned them into the team that couldn't score a single goal against Poland. If one objectively evaluates Coach Ratushny's performance it is undeniable that he has done poorly, and it is a relief that he is leaving on his own so the parting will be merry.
    I am not sure what yet to think of the retirement of President Kalt. For one I think it is time if only because one man should not hold the position forever, and he has held it the longest. The greatest fault I found in him was always unwavering loyalty to people and not results. In any case he is gone, and it remains to see if the next president will be effective at staffing and hiring coaches or not.
    Suhonen will stay, and my feelings for him have fluctuated over time. He had some very ugly moments, such as firing Manny Viveiros which caused multiple dissident players and coaches alike to retire from the national team. He actually reasoned at the time "Austrian coaches for Austrian players" and the way he backed that up was to hire Roger Bader (Swiss) and Dan Ratushny (Canadian). However, some good has come the with hire of Bader. Bader takes a very North American approach to strength and conditioning, which I can appreciate. I am still waiting to see if his methods and approach pay off. An example of this would be Mario and Paul Huber. Mario was developed before Bader was hired, and only began to get into physical shape when he moved to Victoriaville. Paul Huber is just as out of shape and poor at skating at 15, but also shows much potential, and so he is a good test case to see if Bader's conditioning programs are truly effective in preparing athletes for competition or if we must continue to send athletes overseas for them to gain muscle/stamina. I think the future is bright, but I think the right man needs to be at the helm for the future, which is why the upcoming Coaching hire is so important.

  • SC Rheintal

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 20:22
    Zitat von puck2020

    Fässler switch to INL Klub EHC Bwald
    Pfleghar stay in Pikes - Novizen Top next Year
    Mica Moosmann - EV Zug - Hc Lugano- Kloten its open but he leave


    I know that Switzerland is your jurisdiction but do you have any word on the head coaching search, any names that you are free to tell us?

  • Div 1a/Kattowitz 29.4.2016 Österreich-Slowenien

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 19:55

    Hopefully the last line of the story of this WM is "and that was the last anyone saw of Lembacher and Fechtig."

  • Div 1a/Kattowitz 29.4.2016 Österreich-Slowenien

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 18:48

    Lebler and Herburger are going to take the brunt of the blame for this but the responsibility falls squarely on the coach. Ratushny teams have struggled to score chronically, whether last year in the WHC, this year's EHT, or this year's WM-D1A but we always gave him the benefit of the doubt. Selecting players he liked over players who were skilled is ridiculous. He is already on his way out because of the Lausanne job but in short...

    Ratushny muss gehen

  • Top 5 (+1) Österreichische Prospects

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 17:18
    Zitat von Hallo1

    Leon Rüdisser 2001
    Beck Felix 2001 Mini Top CH 21 Spiele 3 Liga 13 Spiele


    Even 6 months ago Rudisser would have been on the list, eclipsed by a rising Philipp Wimmer, still has better size than Wimmer and strong build, may factor again soon.

    Beck is the coaches' son, unfortunately similar to how Goalies are rarely ranked high in the NHL prospect rankings, they are not going to receive deference to skaters with me either unless they are "can't miss." No guarantee he will be better than Kortin...Muller could perhaps be a measuring stick, but Muller is the pilot for an Austrian goalie with a Swiss license in the NLA. To be sure I take suggestions into consideration for the next rankings.

  • SC Rheintal

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 16:41
    Zitat von puck2020

    Fröwis switch to HC Lugano next Saison


    That's good, somewhat of an Italian based club there, if he takes an import spot it will both aid us and take away from the destination potential of some Italian players. He should do better than Timo...

    Is anyone else leaving Pikes next year? I know Fassler was talented, I see him returning home though...

  • SC Rheintal

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. April 2016 um 09:07

    Any word on a transfer destination for Jannik Fröwis? He's flying under the radar a little bit because of bad birthday luck. He was 2 weeks too old to play in the U16 tournament, despite being the same draft year as players like Benny Baumgartner, David Maier, Julian Payr, and too young/small to play in the U18 championship. He actually performed the best of all the Elite Novizen kids, with 45 points in 46 games. He's too good and getting too old to stay at Pikes, is there any word of a transfer destination for him?

    Also, the situation at Davos is fairly interesting. Davos already has 3 foreigners under contract for next year in Pilgram, Pilloni, and Kiss. Pilgram may apply for a swiss player's license after this season however or may already have one. This leaves a finite amount of spots for Payr, Baumgartner, Rauter, and Kortin on the U20 team, however it is imperative for these kids to be playing in the U20 league when they are 16 if they are to have a chance at taking the next step at a young age, so the competition there could be intriguing.

  • Div 1a/Kattowitz 29.4.2016 Österreich-Slowenien

    • kabidjan14
    • 28. April 2016 um 23:34

    3-2 AUT #ichglaube

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 28. April 2016 um 09:40
    Zitat von hufi

    Wäre Tyler Cuma für Österreich spielberechtigt?


    Cuma is 2 years away from eligibility, but Steven Strong is only 1 year away and he is a better option. I don't really believe Cuma is necessary. He is not a great offensive-defenseman, and we have needed more offense this tournament and not more defense. In any case Strong is better and will be eligible sooner. On the defensive front I hope Bernd Wolf begins playing some in the NLA next year, because I see him becoming much like Stefan Ulmer. We very much need a second Stefan Ulmer because the one we already have has anger issues. X(

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 28. April 2016 um 09:33
    Zitat von Mike_vlbg


    Guten Morgen! Doch wir sind eine B-Nation. Die NHL-Exporte zähle ich nicht zu unserm A-Team. Weil wenn alle Nationen ihre besten Spieler (CAN, SWE etc.) dabei hättten, aber wegen den Playoffs noch in Übersee spielen, dann würde der Unterschied zu den etablierten A-Nationen noch eklatanter sein. Es ist ganz einfach, unser NT repräsentiert in keinster Weise das Niveau der EBEL, weil unsere Burschen Platz für 3 klassige Legios in den ersten beiden Linien machen müssen!
    Ich behaupte, dass vor 20 Jahren wir sehr wohl gegen NOR, Frankreich und Dänemark Favoriten waren. Gut jetzt kann man sagen, da spielten wir mit 7-10 eingebürgerten CAN. Um so mehr ist es erschreckend, wie die Nachwuchsarbeit konsequent bei allen Vereinen über Jahrzehnten vernachlässigt worden ist. Ich kann selber vor rund 25 Jahren ein Lied bei der VEU im Nachwuchs ein Lied davon singen! Was da im Nachwuchsbereich abging, war eine Zumutung. Logischerweise haben auch viele Kinder die Freude dabei verloren. Trainingszeiten zu Randzeiten wo es den Eltern sehr schwer gemacht hat die Kinder zur Halle zu bringen war ja noch das geringste Problem.
    Ich weiss nicht wie das bei anderen Vereine ist, kann mir aber nicht vorstellen besser, da wir bei den Knaben österreichweit zu den besten gehörten. Zum Teil haben wir auch in der Schweiz gespielt, und waren da Mittelfeld. Nur die Schweizer (die waren vor 20 Jahren auch eine klare B-Nation, und die Öffentlichkeit hat sich da für Eishockey auch nicht so interessiert wie sie es heute tut, dito die Anzahl Eisflächen etc.) haben begriffen, dass man auf den eigenen Nachwuchs setzen muss.

    Österreich ist gegenwärtig, bis auf Ausnahmen wie Starkbaum, eine B-Nation. Auch weil wir eine sehr dünne Spielerdecke haben. Egal ob 4-5 Leute bei uns ausfallen, gegen Polen in 60 Minuten kein Tor zu schießen und vielleicht eine 80%ige Chance zu haben, spricht Bände über den Zustand des österr. Eishockey. In diesem Sinne Cheers und hoffen wir, dass uns die Fussballer (noch mehr) glücklicher bei er EM machen hihihihi

    What you say is true however the NT should represent the strength of the countries' hockey program, not the strength of the local league. We are also missing European players and Local leaguers too, such as Dominique Heinrich, Thomas Hundertpfund, Andreas Nodl, etc. Compared to our theoretical Olympic/Olympi quali team we are missing more than half the team. If the Austrian soccer team played against the Hungarian soccer team without Alaba, Janko, Harnik, Arnautovic, Junuzovic, Fuchs und Prodl and lost could one claim that Hungary is better than Austria at soccer? Similarly the Austrian national football team is made up of mostly players from the German Bundesliga, but the players represent the country and not the Austrian Bundesliga. We are B-nation by most international definitions, but that has always been the case. A: Can, Swe, Fin, USA, Cze, Rus, B: Svk, Swi, Ger, Dan, Lat, Aut etc. I still believe that the best hockey ever played in an Austrian jersey was sochi 2014. We scored 4 goals against Finland, the US, Canada, Sweden, and Russia all tried and could not. Then we beat Norway handily. It is already bad enough that legios fill the local league, I think it is worse when 7-10 legios fill the NT. After one game between England and Canada many years back the England team sung the Canadian anthem after the game, and that is very ugly.

    Our development could for sure improve, however, it is already much better than many other nations. Nations such as Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine must rely on the Russian youth system, Norway relies on Sweden's youth system, Hungary relies on ours. While we do share teams with Switzerland's youth program and we do export many youth, we also develop quite a few at home, so there will always be much room for improvement. And perhaps ways to contribute to that are to support the NT, EBEL, or sign petitions like the one in the Eishockeyzentrale, but I would not despair too much after a single game involving mostly B-teamers.

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 23:20
    Zitat von Mike_vlbg

    Österreich ist jetzt definitiv eine B-Nation. Seien wir uns ehrlich, wer gehen Polen kein Tor schießt und 2 Drittel praktisch nichts zusammen bringt, der hat doch gegen Finnland, RUS, SWE etc nichts verloren.

    Schuld sind ganz klar die Vereine. Das Produkt EBEL, die der Feichter oder wie der Liga-Manager heißt immer labert, ist für die Identifizierung zu Spielern eine Zumutung. In den ersten 2 Linien nur Legios.

    Ich bin von den Vereinen enttäuscht wie wenig sie auf das NT Rücksicht nehmen. Egal wie die Sache ausgeht. Die Burschen haben gekämpft, aber sie können es einfach nicht besser. Da spielen Spieler bei der polnischen NT die in der 3ten! tschechischen Extraliga als spielen! Das sagt ja eh schon alles.

    Mein Gott, und früher waren wir Favorit gegen FRA, NOR und DEN. Meine Güte, haben die AUT-Vereine unsere Nati kaputt gemacht. Aber ihr geht ja alle wacker in die Hallen und jubeln den Legios zu, die für mehr Geld wo anders hin gehen und spieln. Bravo Leute! Ich schaue seit 2 Jahren kein Spiel mehr in der EBEL an, weil keine Österreicher spielen! Da kommt einfach der Eindruck, mit Geld kauft man sich gute Legios und die halbe Miete ist schon erledigt...


    You see, you posted this on Laola1 too and I'm not sure I can agree. The team we had out there was very obviously our B team. I don't need to reiterate to you how we are missing more than half of our A team. The fact that we expect our B team to beat their A team speaks enough to the inequality between the two nations. There is no way Austria is suddenly a B nation because coach Ratushny keeps summoning Stefan Bacher and Bernhard Fechtig. Also, I can't remembering ever being the favorites against Norway, France and Denmark. I always believed we would win and the Viveiros teams did me proud, but just because I thought we would win did not make us favorites. Half of the Norway team plays in the SHL, but even then and even now if we get a coach who can coach offense I believe Austria can beat Norway and France is weaker.

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 22:25

    A good takeaway from this game was that Lukas Haudum has arrived. He was the only player on the team generating any offense. If only we had invited Dominic Zwerger, Mario Huber, and Bernd Wolf as well, the loss would not be so embarrassing and I personally would not miss Bernhard Fechtig, Michael Scheichl or Stefan Geier...

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 22:10

    I must say, under Ratushny the team has been unable to score at all. Under Viveiros we were scoring all over Finland, and now we can't score a goal against Poland...same with last year's WM and this year's. I remember the last WM Viveiros was the coach we scored like 5 gpg...

  • Division 1a/Polen - Österreich

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 21:11

    That's the 3rd time I counted that Ulmer lost his temper. That's unacceptable, he's our best defenseman, we need him on the ice and he needs to understand that. Now we'll have to see what Layne Viveiros can do...

  • Transfergeflüster: EC Red Bull Salzburg 2016/17

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 18:22

    Freimuller means Baltram, he loves Baltram and Lukas Haudum and really wants them to get their shot. The Red Bull Academy is still young, and thus very interesting, players like Marcel Zitz and Florian Baltram are the pilot generation to see if this academy can bring domestic success, also Jonas Kofler...Philipp Poschmann...Dario Winkler...neither I nor he are very high on Wachter,

    Zitat

    Größe wird immer Thema sein

    ...

  • Transfergeflüster: EC Red Bull Salzburg 2016/17

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 16:33
    Zitat von Almöhi

    Bin echt neugierig wer neuer Dan wird. Einschätzen kann ich weder unseren ex Bullyking noch dem Gustl sein Buam, aber beide hören sich in meinen Ohren spannend an.
    Kabidian über Hendrickson

    Und dass mit vier Kindern, da muss es ihr bei uns wirklich gefallen.


    Haha, it was all from the article, he was talking about how he enjoyed the two years he lived in Salzburg with his wife, how he still follows Red Bull Salzburg occasionally and how his wife wants to visit sometime soon. He is on my wishlist however, as Bernd Freimuller put it:

    Zitat

    Einer von Hunderten von Namen, es geht aber darum, dass Philosophie besser als zuletzt umgesetzt wird (Akademie-Einbindung)...


    (the first part means one in several or one in "a hundred names" I think, the second part I don't really understand)

  • Transfergeflüster Vienna Capitals 2016/17

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 16:26

    https://twitter.com/bfreimueller/status/725325216176549889

    Bernd Freimuller ringing in, of course even he spoke cautiously though...

  • Top 5 (+1) Österreichische Prospects

    • kabidjan14
    • 27. April 2016 um 03:03

    http://www.sonicsrising.com/spokane-chiefs…hope-for-future
    Report on the potential whereabouts of Dominic Zwerger

    Also another kid for 01' is Florian Zajic, had the privilege to watch him play. He got recruited to Canada (CIHA) to play so he obviously has some talent. For now a 3rd line defenseman and will need a lot of work to make it to the next level where he can be either QMJHL or OHL drafted. He's not very good, but he has tools, apart from being 5'9" and 150 pounds already he is extremely defined muscularly, fits into his body well, needs a lot of technical improvement to crack the list, as well as midget play.

  • Division1a/Kattowitz: Österreich-Italien

    • kabidjan14
    • 25. April 2016 um 16:14
    Zitat von thewave

    Lembacher, Pallestrang, Viveiros, Fechtig

    Haben wir wirklich nichts besseres in der Defense?
    Warum hält Ratushny andauernd an Pallestrang und Viveiros fest? Pallestrang hat er in der gesamten Final Serie sitzen lassen und jetzt spielt er Powerplay im Nationalteam. Beim Viveiros geht jeder zweite Aufbaupass zum Gegner. Über die anderen zwei brauch ich eh nichts sagen.

    Wirklich schade das Heinrich und Schumnig nicht dabei sein können...


    Viveiros because he is the most talented defenseman and the biggest prospect from the 1995 year. We praise Haudum a lot and he has played decently at times but the reality is that he is still physically not ready for the senior men's game and this is evident in his play. He has the speed but not yet the strength and the body positioning to be effective, and he has handicapped Komarek at times. They're both young players, prospects. I am Ok with them receiving ice time because it is preparing them for the future when they will be the main players on the team. At least for now, however, they will both struggle from time to time.

    Fechtig, Pallestrang, and Lembacher I can't explain, especially as Altmann, Untwerweger and Schuhmnig sit at home watching...

  • Division 1b/Österreich - Südkorea in Kattowitz

    • kabidjan14
    • 24. April 2016 um 23:08

    I actually believe that the track we're on right now is the right track. I know it's hard to swallow the idea that we need to wait even more, and some of ya'll have been waiting much longer than I have, but I honestly think that the current path is the path to a successful system. Legionnares are necessary but in time they should be replaced by locals who can do the same job. Right now the main problem is that the gap between the U20 and the EBEL is too large. Players are not adequately prepared to make the jump from league to league. Incidentally that is why players who first play at home, then play juniors abroad, and then return from playing juniors in other countries tend to perform very well, because they have been prepared from the jump. The EBYSL is getting more competitive however and gaining recognition. It may take a while but I do believe eventually the local youth league can catch up to speed with the Senior league.

  • SC Rheintal

    • kabidjan14
    • 24. April 2016 um 20:37

    Kai is going from Rheintal to Red bull?

    No destination for Reinbacher?

  • SC Rheintal

    • kabidjan14
    • 24. April 2016 um 17:26

    Does anyone know where Leon Wallner plays?

    Also, transfer destinations for Kai Hammerle and Tobias Reinbacher?

  • Division 1b/Österreich - Südkorea in Kattowitz

    • kabidjan14
    • 24. April 2016 um 16:20

    I was as displeased with the game yesterday anyone, however, it's important to note that before yesterday Korea had never played with more than 3 imports, yesterday they had 6.

  • Division 1b/Österreich - Südkorea in Kattowitz

    • kabidjan14
    • 23. April 2016 um 22:16

    If any EBEL team needs a goalie, there's one guy named Matt Dalton...

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