Thomas Vanek Saison 2019/20

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Übrigens wird er heut bestimmt zum ersten Mal in der NHL treffen!
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Die Chancen stehen auch gut, dass er viel Eiszeit bekommt, da einige seiner Mitspieler verletzt sind.

Ich hoff ich verschlaf heut/morgen (01.00 Uhr) das Spiel nicht.

Zumindest hast du das Spiel nicht verschlafen

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Und noch eine kurze Frage: Gibts eigentlich keine Möglichkeit, NHL-Spiele live übers Internet anzusehen?

Vielleicht weiß da jemand was genaueres oder hat schon einige Infos diesbezüglich holen können. Wär echt cool...

Die Möglichkeits gibts leider nicht. Hab schon stundelang gesucht.

Wenns sowas geben würde, würde ja Premiere durch die Finger schauen.

Aber das nhl.com-Radio is ja auch nit schlecht. und vor allem kostenlos.

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Zumindest hast du das Spiel nicht verschlafen

Verschlafen hab ich es nicht, aber nach dem 2. Drittel bin ich eingeschlafen. Übrigens hat es ungewöhnlicherweise erst um 02.00 Uhr angefangen.

Bin gerade live dabei beim Spiel Canadiens vs Sabres. Zwischenstand 3-2

Der Kommentator meinte das Vanek eine leichte Grippe gehabt hätte und sich jetzt langsam wieder erhole und bald wieder körperlich bei 100% wäre.

Was ein Saku Koivu in den special teams macht ist aller erste Klasse!!!!

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Der Kommentator meinte das Vanek eine leichte Grippe gehabt hätte und sich jetzt langsam wieder erhole und bald wieder körperlich bei 100% wäre.

Ich hoff, dass wenn er wieder voll fit ist, er wieder länger spielen darf.

Heute nacht waren es wieder nur 11 Minuten. Punkte gab es für ihn leider keine, jedoch konnte er einen Torschuss im Mitteldrittel verzeichnen.

Endstand:
Canadiens 3 - Sabres 2

Tore: Kovalev 2x, Zednik; Dumont Gaustad

Heute spielte er in der VIERTEN Reihe mit Roy and Mair. Wird ja immer besser, was wollen die Sabres als nächstes tun, ihn nach Rochester schicken????

Jochen Hecht Daniel Briere JP Dumont
Mike Grier Chris Drury Ales Kotalik
Paul Gaustad Tim Connolly Maxim Afinogenov
Thomas Vanek Derek Roy Adam Mair

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Heute spielte er in der VIERTEN Reihe mit Roy and Mair. Wird ja immer besser, was wollen die Sabres als nächstes tun, ihn nach Rochester schicken????

empfehlen kann man sich nun mal als stürmer nur mit toren - was bringt gut spielen, aber keine tore schießen!?!

hoffe für vanek, dass er sich von der grippe schnell erholt und ihm dann endlich der "knopf aufgeht" was das tore schießen betrifft.

l.

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Original von flame
Heute spielte er in der VIERTEN Reihe mit Roy and Mair. Wird ja immer besser, was wollen die Sabres als nächstes tun, ihn nach Rochester schicken????

Bei den Amerks würde er wenigstens mehr Eiszeit bekommen.

Hoffentlich war oder ist die Grippe der Grund warum er nur in den hinteren Linien zum Einsatz kommt.

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Heute spielte er in der VIERTEN Reihe mit Roy and Mair. Wird ja immer besser, was wollen die Sabres als nächstes tun, ihn nach Rochester schicken????

wenn ihm nicht bald ein tor gelingt wird das passieren. wahrscheinlich wäre das auch besser für ihn. bei den amerks spielt er dann in der ersten linie, bekommt einen haufen eiszeit und kann mit toren neues selbstvertrauen gewinnen. und dann wird er wieder zu den sabres zurückkommen.

Das mit dem Abschieben wäre wohl das schlimmste was ihm passieren könnte, er hats ja vorige Saison bewiesen, dass ers kann. Dann würde er glauben, man schenkt ihm das Vertrauen nicht.

Colorado hat ihren polnischen Rookie abgeschoben, der in 8 Spielen 2 Tore und 4 Assists verbuchen konnte.

Interessanter Bericht von nhl.com

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Thomas Vanek knows what it's like to win a championship in Buffalo and he likes the feeling.

"I've won one championship already in Buffalo and I hope there will be more to come."

Vanek was referring to the NCAA Division I Championship won by the University of Minnesota back in April of 2003 at Buffalo's HSBC Arena. Buffalo was host of the 2003 NCAA Frozen Four.

Vanek was subsequently chosen by the Buffalo Sabres as their No. 1 draft pick, the fifth player taken overall, in the NHL Entry Draft in Nashville, that same year.

Vanek is now in his first year with the Sabres. After playing two seasons at the college level, the left winger turned pro last season and played the entire 2004-05 season with the Rochester Americans of the American Hockey League. There, Vanek ended up scoring 42 goals and 26 assists in 74 regular season AHL contests.
Vanek's promotion to the Sabres seemed like a no-brainer.

"He had to earn a spot on the team," stated Sabres head coach, Lindy Ruff. "Nothing was going to be handed to him."

But the rookie forward has made the adjustment to the NHL without much trouble.

"We got off to a pretty good start as a team," Vanek said. "I've had a lot of good chances since coming to the Sabres.

"I think the experience I had last year in Rochester was great for me. I think the AHL of last year was a great league. Because of the lockout, we had a lot of real good players all year playing with us. That wouldn't have happened in a normal season.

"A lot of those guys are up playing in the NHL this year," he said. "The biggest difference I've noticed this year are the defensemen. They're a lot bigger and smarter on the ice here at the NHL level. And things are a bit faster up here as well."

Western New York fans attending the Frozen Four will remember Vanek. The 6-foot-2, 208-pound freshman left winger from Vienna, Austria led the U. of Minnesota to their second consecutive NCAA title. The 21 year-old Vanek was named the Most Outstanding Player at the Frozen Four. It capped off a year that saw the right handed shooting Austrian become the first freshman in 48 years to win the U. of Minnesota MVP award, scoring 31 goals and 31 assists in 45 regular-season contests. He led the Gophers in playoff scoring with seven goals and four assists for 11 points.

For Vanek, making the NHL is a dream he has had since he was three years old in his native Austria.

"I was pretty relaxed sitting there," said Vanek, referring the moments leading up to his selection by the Sabres. "There were some great players selected ahead of me.

"I'm happy I'm in Buffalo. I love the rink there. I've won a championship there already. We'll see what is going to happen now."

What happened to Vanek was that he went back to the University of Minnesota for one more season. Then last summer he decided he could turn pro and play for the Sabres farm team, the Rochester Americans.

"I sat down over that first summer with coaches from both the University of Minnesota and the Buffalo Sabres and made the decision that was best for me. I didn't want to make the wrong move and then sit and not play the way I should for the whole year. I needed to develop and play a lot of games and get better somehow.

"It's was a tough decision going back with Minnesota for that last year. Basically the whole team was coming back. We were all excited about a three-peat. Unfortunately that didn't happen.

"I knew that I wanted to come back. But at the same time my dream was to move on a play in the National Hockey League. That's why I did what I did because I it was going to be best for me as a player."
Thomas Vanek
For Vanek, making the NHL is a dream he has had since he was three years old in his native Austria.

Ruff is very impressed with Vanek.

"He's just got that knack around the net," Ruff said. "He finds ways to score big goals.

"It was exciting to watch him play during the Frozen Four. He just seems to have that ability to lift his team when it is needed. We're hoping he'll be able to do that with us.

"Obviously he's a little more mature than some of the other guys taken in that draft. He's a year closer than some of these guys. And that makes a big difference. In college hockey he was playing with kids that are older and more mature. In junior hockey he could have been playing kids that were 16-years-old. With that I think he's a step ahead of a lot of these players.

"I think that Thomas, like many other players his age, will have to work on his defensive game a little more. Once that comes together, there is no doubt that he will be the complete package."

That is why Sabres GM, Darcy Regier made Vanek such a high priority when he was drafted.

"There is no doubt that this young man has a lot of talent," Regier said. "He is a natural when it comes to goal scoring."

Rochester head coach, Randy Cunneyworth, was very impressed with the play of Vanek last season.

"I just like the way he battles for the puck when he is any place around the net," Cunneyworth said. "There is no doubt that he has the skill to score goals. But it's how he scores them that is more impressive. He just doesn't quit. He's not afraid to stick his nose in the middle of battle and give a little push to the opposition. He shouldn't have a problem making it with the NHL."

What about scoring those big third period goals?

"Every team I've ever played for, I've always seen myself as one of the go to guys," Vanek said. "If we were down a goal or up a goal, and we needed more offense, I think the coaches looked to me and my linemates. And we usually stepped up to that situation quite often. I guess it was a good spot to be in."

For Vanek, it's also important for him as an Austrian to have been chosen this high in the draft. Vanek is the first Austrian to be selected in the opening round of the Entry Draft.

"Back home it's more soccer, tennis, skiing, so hopefully little kids back home recognize that kids from Austria have a chance to make it hopefully in the National Hockey League," Vanek said. "Hopefully this has a little bit of an impact and hockey is going to get bigger there. I'm really nothing over there (as far as being a celebrity goes). I think there's a few years to go for myself before I make a name for myself. Maybe then they'll recognize me."

Vanek now lives in North America, after moving from Austria almost eight years ago.

"When I was 14-years-old I knew it was time to move on, as far as my hockey career was concerned," recalled Vanek, whose parents, Zdenek and Jarmila, and brother, Dave, still reside in Austria. "We had a few friends living in Canada.

"It was tough coming over here. I really didn't know the (English) language and didn't have many friends over here. It was tough for the first few months. But I had a great host family in Canada. They helped a lot."

After playing Midget Double-A hockey in the Red Deer, Alberta area, Vanek moved on to Rochester, N.Y. where he stayed for seven weeks. From there it was on to Sioux Falls of the United States Hockey League, where he played two seasons. And, from there, Vanek moved to the University of Minnesota.

It seems as though everything in hockey that Vanek has set his sights on, he has hit his target right on. Buffalo and the NHL was that last goal.

"I've waited all summer for this season to begin in Buffalo," concluded Vanek. "Right now I'm just concentrating on playing for the Sabres. Now that I've gotten to the NHL, I want to stay here for awhile."

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Auf sabres.com wurden endlich einmal in der Rubrik "Team" die "Possible Line Combinations" geändert:

Hecht - Briere - Dumont
Grier - Drury - Kotalik
Gaustad - Connolly - Afionogenov
Vanek - Roy - Mair

Thomas leider nur in der vierten Linie. Ich hoff, dass er morgen vor dem Spiel noch ein paar Linien vorrutscht.

soeben im sabres forum entdeckt:

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I know he had the flu or whatever and his energy levels are down, and that he has great potential and hes going to get his goals. Frankly, however, i dont like the way he plays. It reminds of connolly from like 3 or 4 years ago with less flair. He doesnt really bang in the corners or jostle in any way. He just kind of skates along and floats into spaces and stays there, not even always skating. His backchecking needs work but whose doesnt, heatleys second goal was terrible he just kind of stopped skating or trying to take him out at all. I was just wondering if anyone actually saw him play in rochester or austria and if this is how he played out there. There is no way you rack up the resume he has without having an ounce of agressiveness.

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If you want an energy guy that bangs, then Vanek isn't the guy to look to.

Vanek's game is like Jagr, Brett Hull, and Satan for the most part. Always has been and always will be.

unbedingt zufrieden sind sie mit ihm ja nicht.

doch es gibt auch positives:

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Vanek is really young, but he has got potential, I think that he will play more "NHL-like" the second half of the season. And I also think that he will score a couple of goals after that he have put one in the net, then everything will come loose for him. Don't worry, Vanek will be top 3 point scorers in our team, and top 5 among goals. Remember, an assist can be as important as an goal sometimes, you can't get any goals without anyone passing the puck to you.

Den Spielstil mit Jagr, Hull, Satan zu vergleichen gefällt mir auserordentlich.

Nur Brett hull ist irgendwie genau das Gegenteil von Thomas, Vanek ist mehr der technisch versiertere und legt mehr Wert auf Spielkultur.
Hull hat nie lange gefakelt oder einen Haken zuviel gemacht, er war immer nur auf eins ausgerichtet, das Goalhorn muss ertönen.

In einem anderem Thread fand ich weitaus Positiveres:

Moley17 schrieb:

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My lines would be as followed:
Vanek-Briere-Dumont
Heht-Drury-Kotalik
Roy-Connolly-Afinogenov
Mair-Gaustad-Grier

Rayzor:

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Kotalik - Briere - Dumont
- Briere with the right shot and Dumont with the left shot, played together in Bern during the lockout, Kotalik with the size on this line
Vanek - Connolly - Afinogenov
- Great line for a long time, Connolly a right handed shot American center (Pat LaFontaine) Afinogenov a left handed shot Russian right winger (Alex Mogilny)
Hecht - Drury - Grier
- checking line. Hecht and Grier played together with the Edmonton Oilers (centered by Todd Marchant) and Drury and Grier played together at Boston University.
Peters / Pyatt - Roy / Gaustad - Mair
- Peters enforcer (Rob Ray), Roy or Gaustad left handed shot center (Dave Hannan / Kris Draper) Mair right handed shot right winger (Wayne Presley / Kirk Maltby). Roy or Gaustad and Mair first penalty kill. Mair and Gaustad are willing to drop the gloves

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SabresFanatic schrieb:

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This is what i think the lines should look like right now:

Vanek - Briere - Afinogenov
Hecht - Gaustad - Dumont
Kotalik - Connolly - Roy
Peters - Drury - Mair

Von BuffaloFan19

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Vanek Briere Dumont
Hecht Drury Grier

If it ain't broke don't fix it. These lines were doing fine and the Sabres were winning. Why did Ruff mess with what was working. Now I realized that Hecht, Dumont, and Briere aren't a bad combination either, but Vanek has and would continue to benefit tremedously from being on Briere's line, plus the fact that Dumont and Briere can cover up for Vanek's ineptness on defense (which is a glaring hole in his game). Hecht was scoring when he was on Drury's line. The production wasn't great but it was ok. As for the third and fourth lines, with Roy now in the lineup, you can't have everything the way it was. I am not sure what combination you should have. I may be on of the few, but I have been ok with the play of Tim Connolly this year. I like Roy, but I don't think Connolly should be shafted out of a roster spot. They have to continue to find a way to use both of them. Plus, there are times when Derek Roy is just too small (i.e. late in the first Montreal game where he, Vanek, and Afinogenov, another midget, were just outsized and outmuscled for that game-losing goal).

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Sie wollen und werden Thomas hoffentlich wieder in der 1. oder 2. Linie spielen sehen.

Was mich so wundert ist, dass vielen guten Stürmern die Arbeit in der eigenen Zone so schwer fällt. Das dürfte ja laut den Forumseinträgen nun auch das Problem beim Thomas Vanek sein.

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Was mich so wundert ist, dass vielen guten Stürmern die Arbeit in der eigenen Zone so schwer fällt. Das dürfte ja laut den Forumseinträgen nun auch das Problem beim Thomas Vanek sein.

Das ist schon immer Vaneks Schwäche gewesen - auch noch bei der Stampede, Gophers, Rochester....

halt immer irgendwo überstrahlt worden von seinen Points

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da dürftest Recht haben, denn seine +/- Statistik aus dem letzten Jahr war nicht so berauschend!

daysleeper

wobei das gesamte Team der Amerks aus dem letzten Jahr keine berauschende +/- Bilanz aufweisen kann. Vanek sticht da keineswegs negativ heraus.

Auch bei den Sabres liegt er im Mittelfeld.

+/- ist keine sehr aussagekräftige Statistik wie ich finde.

Angeblich wird überlegt, Vanek für 1-2 Spiele zurück zu den Amerks zurück zu schicken, damit er dort wieder das nötige Selbstvertraue fürs Tore schießen bekommt.

Ich persönlich finde die Idee nicht schlecht und Coach Ruff weiß sicher, was am besten für ihn ist.

Ihn ins Farmteam zu schicken, würde ein angeknacktes Selbstvertrauen weiter schwächen. Ich würde Vanek in die erste Linie stellen das wäre ein Vertrauensbeweis für Ihn.

Aber ins Faemteam, da brauchst ein dickes Fell um nicht noch tiefer zu sinken.

BITTE VANEK NICHT INS FARMTEM!!! Ich galude das er noch zeit braucht .weill so ist es ja auch nicht das er gar keine punkte macht.Vanek spielt heit in der nacht oda????

Brauchst keine Angst haben, abgeschoben wird er wohl kaum.