Unterstützung für eine Eishalle in Mödling (Online-Unterschriftenaktion)

Als ehemaliger HTL-"Sträfling" (waren schöne Jahre dort!) in Mödling mach ich das doch gerne. Hoffentlich wird was draus!!

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No excuses, not even living half a world away.

Eine neue Eishalle für die es Bedarf gibt, kann man nur begrüßen. Bei uns in Kärnten werden dringend gebraucht: eine Trainingshalle in VI und eine Schließung oder Neubau vom "Carport" Velden.

Can anyone make more sense of this article than I can? It says updates have been made to Austrian stadium construction, is that just the Graz project or are there other rinks in the making?
http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/index.php?head=Baureport-Update-58-neue-Projekte-hinzugefuegt-&folder=sites&site=news_detail&news_id=14100

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Can anyone make more sense of this article than I can? It says updates have been made to Austrian stadium construction, is that just the Graz project or are there other rinks in the making?
http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/index.php?head=Baureport-Update-58-neue-Projekte-hinzugefuegt-&folder=sites&site=news_detail&news_id=14100

I think they're only referring to updates they made on their websites. So maybe added new pictures, changed the capacity after minor renovations or changes, etc. There will be btw an enlargement of the VIP area in the Volksgarten in Salzburg and one or two additional rows on the upper end of the A stand. So the capacity will be a little higher next season.

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I think they're only referring to updates they made on their websites. So maybe added new pictures, changed the capacity after minor renovations or changes, etc. There will be btw an enlargement of the VIP area in the Volksgarten in Salzburg and one or two additional rows on the upper end of the A stand. So the capacity will be a little higher next season.

That's good to hear. I was wondering if new local rinks are being built as well but website updates makes sense. It also makes sense to expand the Volksgarten, I never understood why it is so small. Salzburg is a powerhouse in the EBEL, you would think they would have one of the larger arenas.

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It also makes sense to expand the Volksgarten, I never understood why it is so small. Salzburg is a powerhouse in the EBEL, you would think they would have one of the larger arenas.

This expansion will be a very small one though. The Volksgarten itself has one advantage: it's in the center of the city. But that's all. It's not just too small (meaning too few seating areas) but it also offers very little comfort. It is far too cold inside, the first 4 rows on the A stand can't see shit, the selection of food is meh, you can't find parking lots near the arena ...
But I can't see that anything will change in the near future. Simply because there is no space left in the city and the city itself isn't interested in professional sports.

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This expansion will be a very small one though. The Volksgarten itself has one advantage: it's in the center of the city. But that's all. It's not just too small (meaning too few seating areas) but it also offers very little comfort. It is far too cold inside, the first 4 rows on the A stand can't see shit, the selection of food is meh, you can't find parking lots near the arena ...
But I can't see that anything will change in the near future. Simply because there is no space left in the city and the city itself isn't interested in professional sports.

Ah, isn't Salzburg a music city or something? Hopefully success brings a following. If there was a large arena in Salzburg they would hold events there too.

Auf jeden Fall wird's in Zukunft nur noch Spiele in der NÖ-Elite(?)liga geben, nach 14 Niederlagen in 14 Spielen verabschiedet man sich aus der wohl stärkeren Liga der Bundeshauptstadt.

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Ah, isn't Salzburg a music city or something? Hopefully success brings a following. If there was a large arena in Salzburg they would hold events there too.

due to its status as a unesco world heritage, its always a long or even never ending process until something gets build in salzburg.

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due to its status as a unesco world heritage, its always a long or even never ending process until something gets build in salzburg.

I see. I feel like that would be a problem for a lot of Austria, living alongside insensitive tourists and people who would prefer to think of functional cities as historical landmarks. What would be the result of potentially building slightly outside of Salzburg? Like perhaps in Koppl?

ok, that would be a little bit too far away.
but i could imagine a new arena in liefering or siezenheim, well connected to the center with a tram or something like that, but yeah i doubt we will see something like that in the near future.

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ok, that would be a little bit too far away.
but i could imagine a new arena in liefering or siezenheim, well connected to the center with a tram or something like that, but yeah i doubt we will see something like that in the near future.

Siezenheim sounds like a great idea. I read it's the largest municipality in Austria. It's far off of course but if Salzburg keeps winning championships they'll need a bigger roof to house all the fans, and also tapping into the largest municipality wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

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Ah, isn't Salzburg a music city or something?

It is. But only because every venue they use for the Salzburg Festival was built between 500 and 100 yrs ago. If they had to build something new they would't have anything.

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Auf jeden Fall wird's in Zukunft nur noch Spiele in der NÖ-Elite(?)liga geben, nach 14 Niederlagen in 14 Spielen verabschiedet man sich aus der wohl stärkeren Liga der Bundeshauptstadt.

Aber auch dort brauchen's endlich eine Halle. Und mit 'in Zukunft' ist ja in Österreichs Eishockey maximal der Zeitraum von einem Jahr gemeint, lehrt die Erfahrung ...

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ok, that would be a little bit too far away.
but i could imagine a new arena in liefering or siezenheim, well connected to the center with a tram or something like that, but yeah i doubt we will see something like that in the near future.

I actually just found this article. Plans to build a 7000-8000 seater stadium in Liefering 5 years ago with a plot of land they had. Ultimately that land became the location of the new Red Bull Academy, but I think relocation is probably something on the minds of the Owners/operators.
http://m.sportnet.at/home/winterspo…653719/index.do

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It is. But only because every venue they use for the Salzburg Festival was built between 500 and 100 yrs ago. If they had to build something new they would't have anything.

Yeah, unfortunately it seems most people on the outside think of Salzburg as an antique treasure, while others have to actually to live in it. I for my part knew that Haydn and Mozart were Austrian but was surprised to learn they were born in the hockey town of Salzburg haha

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Yeah, unfortunately it seems most people on the outside think of Salzburg as an antique treasure, while others have to actually to live in it. I for my part knew that Haydn and Mozart were Austrian but was surprised to learn they were born in the hockey town of Salzburg haha

Joseph Haydn wasn't born in Salzburg. He was born in Lower Austria, died in Vienna and spent most of his life in Eisenstadt.
Probably the only time he ever visited Salzburg was for the inauguration of the Volksgarten arena

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Joseph Haydn wasn't born in Salzburg. He was born in Lower Austria, died in Vienna and spent most of his life in Eisenstadt.
Probably the only time he ever visited Salzburg was for the inauguration of the Volksgarten arena

Woops, it was Johann Haydn my bad. And that's actually pretty cool to think about, that you are playing in a stadium with that much history. And very ironic given our conversation haha

Just curious, is there any update on the survey this thread was originally made for?

1) Please check these numbers Average Attendance EC Red Bull Salzburg (you can also find them in the official season-documents at https://www.eishockeyforum.at/www.eishockey.at). No demand = no new arena (especially in financially tougher times for municipalities). There might be some reasons to renew old arenas (like in Graz or hopefully Kapfenberg), but I fear, even the RB-organisation has realised, that with their squads & image (and despite their success) the old forumula 'when you build it, they will come' does not work (just look at the attendance numbers at Wals-Siezenheim).

2) Please (for the future) discuss this topic in a thread in the Red Bull part in this forum. Because I think the wish & need and petition for a real ice-arena in Mödling is so more urgent and important, therefore to use this thread and space to wonder about possible RB-Arenas in Wals-Siezenheim, Koppl or wherever is a little way off the topic and not very helpful for the Mödling-petition (yes a petition, not a survey), too. Thanxs.

Haydn was successor of Mozart in Salzburg. But it was Michael Haydn not his brother Joseph. Just to keep cultural knowledge in this forum at a high level.

Bringt das was, wenn ich als Salzburger die Mödlinger Petition unterzeichne?

Ja sicher bringt's was - steht ja nix dort, dass nur Mödlinger und so unterschreiben dürfen. Und man kann ja theoretisch immer auch ein Exil-Mödlinger sein.

Ob's generell was nützt, ist eine andere Frage - aber schaden wird's sicher mal nicht.

Zitat von nordiques!

2) Please (for the future) discuss this topic in a thread in the Red Bull part in this forum. Because I think the wish & need and petition for a real ice-arena in Mödling is so more urgent and important, therefore to use this thread and space to wonder about possible RB-Arenas in Wals-Siezenheim, Koppl or wherever is a little way off the topic and not very helpful for the Mödling-petition (yes a petition, not a survey), too. Thanxs.

The original article I posted here was about building hockey rinks in general, and Salzburg came up in conversation which I am fine with.