Saison 2003/04

    Weiß schon jemand ob Brander länger ausfallen wird oder ob er im nächsten Spiel wieder am Eis steht ????
    [QUOTE]Zitat (Garnixweiß19 @ Nov. 09 2003,19:50)
    und wie kommt er dann nur auf 7 min?[/QUOTE]
    ist ja nur eine theorie von mir; geh eigentlich davon aus, daß die highlights von nhl.com schon chronolgisch geschnitten werden, also dürfte der check im späten ersten oder frühen zweiten drittel passiert sein; brandner hat aber noch shifts im 3.drittel gehabt ...

    aber brandner dürft schon vorm check wenig shifts gehabt haben, also i dont know ...

    btw, hab nur gemeint, daß im spiel dafür keine strafe ausgesprochen worden ist - ob noch was kommt, werd man schon sehen, macht aber den fehlpfiff im spiel nicht automatisch zu keinem fehlpfiff ;-)
    Posted on Tue, Nov. 11, 2003

    Canucks blame hubbub on Wild
    BY BRIAN MURPHY
    Pioneer Press

    Sergei Zholtok, the instigator?

    Yes, according to Vancouver's Jarkko Ruutu. It was Zholtok's idea to start the fight Saturday that has rocketed the Canucks-Wild rivalry into a new orbit heading into tonight's rematch at the Xcel Energy Center.

    Zholtok had fought only once in his nine NHL seasons. The Wild were on a power play trailing 4-2 with 6:28 remaining in the third period when he and the Canucks' self-made antagonist came together at the Vancouver blue line.

    "He was asking if I wanted to go. I said, 'Let's go,' " Ruutu said Monday. "He asked me first, and then I asked him back. I was surprised because he kept his gloves on. Then he dropped them."

    It was a one-sided clash. Ruutu, who has been in 13 fights in his three-plus NHL seasons, landed a few right hands before it all ended.

    Several Wild players complained about Ruutu targeting one of their skilled players, generally considered a blackball offense among players who have governed themselves by the unwritten rule for decades.

    Of course, everything is left to interpretation.

    "I don't care about the codes. Two guys want to go, I think that's fair game," Ruutu said. "But I don't really care. Whatever they say, it doesn't bother me. That's part of the game. I don't look back. I look forward."

    Zholtok chuckled when told about Ruutu's narration.

    "I guess that's why I kept my gloves on. Like I wanted to start a fight when we were on the PP," Zholtok said. "When I was sitting in the box, we were down, and I remember thinking I wish I could help the boys score a goal instead of sitting in the box for five minutes.

    "If he thinks I went after him, that's fine."

    The Wild also were unhappy with the hit Ruutu laid on the side of Christoph Brandner's head as he fished for a puck along the boards midway through the second period. Elbow? Shoulder? That also is left to interpretation. The blow broke Brandner's nose for the second time this season.

    "I think it should have been charging or boarding," Brandner said.

    Willie Mitchell and Brad Brown were especially candid in saying someone could retaliate if the score and timing are right tonight.

    Vancouver coach Marc Crawford, though, would not say if Ruutu even would be in the lineup tonight. He has been a healthy scratch four times this season. Nevertheless, Crawford doesn't expect the tenor to change much.

    "Whenever you have back-to-back games, they're always going to be emotional, they're always going to be entertaining," Crawford said. "It's positive in the league when you get these types of games because there's interest."

    Brad May doesn't understand all the fuss. The rugged Vancouver winger twice fought Brown during the first period Saturday, with Brown winning the rematch with a clean shot right above May's left eye.

    "He hit me in the forehead, which is the hardest part of my body," May cracked.

    As for the Zholtok and Brandner incidents, May said he doesn't believe special circumstances should be afforded two players who are 6 feet 2 and 6 feet 4.

    "Brandner's playing in a league among men," May said. "Just because you're not a fighter or supposedly a tough guy, that doesn't give you a right not to get hit. I understand their point. But Zholtok's a big guy. Stand up for yourself. Jarkko Ruutu's tougher than him? So what. You're not winning? Be tough.

    "I'm not saying he's not tough. But it's a game for me. If you can't stand up for yourself, get out of the league. I would say the same thing about my teammates."

    The verbal sparring between the Northwest Division rivals is the latest outburst in a feud that began percolating two years ago and boiled over during the Wild's seven-game playoff victory in the spring.

    Mitchell, Brown and Matt Johnson have been among the usual suspects in the middle of trouble. So have Ruutu, May and Matt Cooke.

    Ruutu has been wrapped in sandpaper since he broke into the league four years ago. The native of Helsinki, Finland, amassed 166 penalty minutes in 37 games one season playing for a Finnish pro team. It should be noted that game misconducts count for 20 minutes in penalties in Finland and not 10 as they do in the NHL.

    "Referees targeted me more," he said. "I had a reputation."

    Vancouver drafted Ruutu in the third round in 1998. In two seasons with the Syracuse Crunch of the American Hockey League, the left wing averaged 137 penalty minutes. With the Canucks, he has seven goals among 13 points and 178 penalty minutes in 114 games.

    Ruutu grew up idolizing Wayne Gretzky and Jari Kurri. But his style is cut from the same cloth as Esa Tikkanen, a feisty Finn who was also was Public Enemy No. 1 in many dressing rooms.

    "I try to hit anything that moves. I play hard, battle for puck. I fight if I need to," he said. "I try to do anything I can to make the team win. When I get underneath (an opponent's skin), they're not going to pay attention to their game and start concentrating on getting me, which is fine with me



    WILD 3, CALGARY 0: Wild relish ugly win
    BY BRIAN MURPHY
    Pioneer Press

    CALGARY, Alberta — It was physical, dreary and downright ugly at times.

    To the Wild, though, their 3-0 victory over the Calgary Flames on Friday night looks rather lovely, which is why they were not going to nitpick about the cosmetics of their first win at the Pengrowth Saddledome in three years.

    There were plenty of intriguing subplots to dissect.

    After convincing coach Jacques Lemaire that he could play through his nagging groin injury, Pascal Dupuis scored his first goal of the season and added an assist playing on a new all French-speaking line with Marc Chouinard and Alexandre Daigle.

    "It was great," Dupuis said. "We talked all French out there, and they didn't know what we were saying."

    Chouinard also scored, and Richard Park added a power-play goal.

    Dwayne Roloson, formerly a goalie in the Flames' organization, made 34 saves for his 12th career shutout and the Wild's first of the season.

    Ignoring his two hair-raising and potentially costly attempts to play the puck in the second period, Roloson was solid in the crease, thwarting the Flames when they cranked up the heat in the third period. Since his 0-3-1 start, he has won three in a row.

    "I was able to see most of the shots, and anything I wasn't able to see, our defense was able to block," the Wild goalie said. "Our 'D' played unbelievably for me."

    It was the Wild defense's best performance of the season. They protected Roloson and the lead despite the aggressive, net-crashing habits of a Calgary team that betrays the grit of its hard-nosed coach, Darryl Sutter.

    Willie Mitchell and Filip Kuba each logged more than 25 minutes and finished plus-1, while Nick Schultz continued putting his early season struggles in the rear-view mirror. He was strong in his own end and picked up his fourth assist in five games.

    "Our defensemen were great around the net," Lemaire said.

    After Colorado torched a pair of two-goal Wild leads in their tie Tuesday, the Wild built a firewall around a 2-0 advantage they carried into the third period against the Flames. Roloson was his strongest in the final 20 minutes, making 18 saves, including a couple of point-blank saves on the always dangerous Jarome Iginla.

    Minnesota, which was an NHL-best 30-0-1 when leading after two periods last season, improved to 6-0-1 this season. And don't think they weren't paying attention.

    "Giving up two, two-goal leads against Colorado was really uncharacteristic," Wild center Wes Walz said. "It really felt like we lost that game, so this was important for us."

    It was the Wild's first victory in Calgary since Nov. 5, 2000, snapping a six-game winless streak (0-4-2) that dated to the franchise's first-ever road victory.

    Moreover, the Wild are 5-1-1 in their past seven games. They will need all the momentum they can muster tonight, when they take on the NHL's top team, the Vancouver Canucks, in their first game in Vancouver since defeating the Canucks in Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals six months ago.

    And they probably can expect a game as chippy as Friday's. There were two fights, and 50 minutes of penalties assessed, including four high-sticking calls against Calgary. None dialed up the tension more than Craig Conroy's jab to Marian Gaborik's jaw late in the game.

    Meanwhile, after skating Friday morning for the first time in three days, Dupuis told Lemaire he was good to go. That prompted Lemaire to significantly shuffle his lines.

    He put Dupuis with his countrymen, and paired Christoph Brandner with Park on the wings around Pierre-Marc Bouchard, who played his first game of the season at center — a demanding position in Lemaire's system, especially for a 19-year-old.

    "I knew it would be tough for him. I wanted to make sure he had the most perfect wingers," Lemaire said.

    The move paid off when Minnesota broke through late in the first period.

    Dupuis launched Daigle and Chouinard on a two-on-one. Daigle's cross-ice pass slithered underneath the sliding Denis Gauthier to Chouinard, who chipped in his second goal of the season at 15:07.

    With less than seven minutes remaining in the game, Dupuis dashed any hopes of a Calgary comeback on Conroy's brutal turnover. He fired a wayward pass through the slot right to Dupuis, who blasted it through McLennan's legs to empty the building.

    "It was a pea right in the middle," Dupuis said. "Thanks, Conroy."
    also anderswo heißts wieder, daß brandner ein 'healthy scratch' war (lt wild-forum, weil er derzeit bissl ausgepowert sei und lemaire ihm a night off gegönnt hat ... wie wärs mit knödel essen? *g*)

    mal gucken, ob er gegen die oilers dabei sein wird ...
    wäre meiner meinung nach auch ein wenig seltsam, dass er mit einer gebrochenen nase nicht spielt - wo sie eh schon einmal gebrochen war und er damit dann gespielt hat...
    laut dem star tribune hat lemaire brandner nicht eingesetzt weil er müde gewirkt hat. zusätzliche sorgen bereitet lemaire sein gewichtsverlust von 6 pfund (etwas mehr als 2,5 kg) - gewichtsverlust von brandner wohlgemerkt. brandner meinte, dass es eine große umstellunge wäre, weil er 10 Jahre lang fr - so gespielt hat und in der nhl fast jeden zweiten tag ein spiel am programm steht.
    [QUOTE]Zitat (nordiques! @ Nov. 12 2003,14:03)
    ... wie wärs mit knödel essen? *g*)[/QUOTE]
    wie geht der spruch des ösi-power teams?
    "is wos g'scheits" hihi...

    nein im ernst,na-no-na-net ist der nhl spielerhytmus zum gewöhnen,drei spiele pro woche,matches werden intensiver geführt,mehr körperspiel.....

    wenn ich da an meine persönlichen glanzzeiten im radfahren zurückdenke,jeden zweiten tag zwischen 60 und 80 kilometer,unter tags der beruf mit nicht immer optimalen bedingungen zur richtigen nahrungsaufnahme!
    da bekommt man schon einen bruchteil der belastung solcher spitzensportler mit!!??
    [QUOTE]Zitat (christian 91 @ Nov. 13 2003,09:54)
    wie geht der spruch des ösi-power teams?
    "is wos g'scheits" hihi...

    nein im ernst,na-no-na-net ist der nhl spielerhytmus zum gewöhnen,drei spiele pro woche,matches werden intensiver geführt,mehr körperspiel.....[/QUOTE]
    naja, vielleicht sollte er sich tipps beim krutov holen, wie man als nhl-neuling net gewicht verliert :-) :-) - der hat doch seinerzeit bei den canucks angeblich so an die 10-15kg zugelegt ...

    der substanzverlust wird wohl nur vorübergehend sein; glaub sowieso, daß dem brandner nix besseres passieren hat können, als den lemaire als coach zu haben (auch wenn ich seine defensiv-philosophie net immer gutheiß) ...

    mehr sorgen sollt ihm uu die die leichtaufkommende diskussion, daß er zu soft wär', machen - dieses image wirst dann schwer wieder los ...
    • Offizieller Beitrag
    im heutigen "kurier" wird can-spieler brad may kurz zur "nhl-härte" zitiert:

    Die Fans sorgen sich um Brandner

    15 Spiele, zwei Nasenbrüche. Die NHL ist für Christoph Brandner wirklich die härteste Eishockey-Liga der Welt. Seinen zweiten Bruch erlitt Brandner nach einem Ellbogen-Check des finnischen Raubeins Jarko Ruutu im Spiel der Minnesota Wild bei den Vancouver Cannucks. Ruutu bekam nicht einmal eine kleine Bankstrafe. Dafür bekam Brandner am Dienstag im Rückspiel gegen die Cunnucks ein Pause. Minnesota revanchierte sich für die 3:4-Niederlage in Kanada mit einem 1:0-Heimsieg. Nach dem hitzigen Spiel in der Vorwoche erwarteten die Fans wieder harte Duelle. Doch es kam anders. Vor dem Spiel wurde Brandner auch noch von Vancouvers Brad May verbal attackiert: "Nur weil Brandner kein Schläger ist, hat er nicht das Recht, keine Schläge zu bekommen. Er spielt in einer Liga unter Männern." Mittlerweile machen sich die Minnesota-Fans Sorgen um Christoph Brandner. Er solle beim Eislaufen nicht nur auf das Eis schauen, sonst würde er bald bei einem Check schwer verletzt werden, meinen NHL-Insider im Wild-Internet-Forum. Dennoch sind sie mit dem Steirer zufrieden. In einer Umfrage, nach dem besten Neuzugang steht Brandner in der Beliebtheitskala ganz oben. Der 28-Jährige wird wegen seiner Spielweise als wirkliche Verstärkung für den NHL-Top-Klub gesehen. Ob Brandner im heutigen Heimspiel gegen die Edmonton Oilers wieder im Team steht, ist noch nicht sicher. - Peter Karlik
    brandner erweckt zeitweise schon den anschein ein wenig "soft" zu sein für die nhl!!

    kann mich ehrlich gesagt an keine szene zu klagenfurter zeiten erinnern in denen er nur ansatzweise probierte zu raufen!
    manchmal wehrte er sich nicht mal voll gegen unfaire attacken der gegner!
    [QUOTE]Zitat (kac glen @ Nov. 13 2003,11:55)
    Vancouvers Brad May verbal attackiert: [b]"Nur weil Brandner kein Schläger ist, hat er nicht das Recht, keine Schläge zu bekommen. Er spielt in einer Liga unter Männern[/QUOTE]
    Brad May doesn't understand all the fuss. The rugged Vancouver winger twice fought Brown during the first period Saturday, with Brown winning the rematch with a clean shot right above May's left eye.

    "He hit me in the forehead, which is the hardest part of my body," May cracked.

    As for the Zholtok and Brandner incidents , May said he doesn't believe special circumstances should be afforded two players who are 6 feet 2 and 6 feet 4.

    "Brandner's playing in a league among men," May said. "Just because you're not a fighter or supposedly a tough guy, that doesn't give you a right not to get hit. I understand their point. But Zholtok's a big guy. Stand up for yourself. Jarkko Ruutu's tougher than him? So what. You're not winning? Be tough.

    "I'm not saying he's not tough. But it's a game for me. If you can't stand up for yourself, get out of the league. I would say the same thing about my teammates."

    Die Übersetzung ist falsch, der fighter bezieht sich auf Zholtok! Diese Berichterstattung paßt eher zur krone...
    [QUOTE]Zitat (Eiskalt @ Nov. 13 2003,14:29)
    Die Übersetzung ist falsch, der fighter bezieht sich auf Zholtok! Diese Berichterstattung paßt eher zur krone...[/QUOTE]
    die gleichen sich eh immer mehr an - va im sportbereich (wo mir die pseudosüßsauer moral vom kurier noch mehr nervt als die krone-märchen) ...

    bzgl brandner und so glaub ich, daß sich die kritik in na va darauf bezieht, daß brandner in den verdacht gerät, teamkollegen seine eigenen fights auskämpfen zu lassen ... den ruf sollte er drüben lieber nit bekommen, denn va in kanada sinds ja ganz heiß auf 'softe' europäer :-(

    is aber auch ein problem seiner größe, daß da alle glauben, einen typischen power-forward vor sich zu haben und daran gleich bestimmte erwartungen glauben knüpfen zu müssen .... mmmhhh

    aber letztendlich zählt eh nur die leistung am eis, die sein image bestimmen wird ....
    ich finde das ist einen eigenen topic wert ....

    brandner hat gerade sein 4. tor erziehlt, nach langer zeit des wartens und der rückschläge freut mich das besonders für ihn!

    vancouver - minnesota 0:1

    5:54, Christoph Brandner 4 (Wes Walz, Alexandre Daigle)
    "We can't get down just because we score one goal -- we play good defense," said Brandner, who returned after missing two games with the flu. "For sure maybe we got to put another chance in the net, but I think that's coming."

    Eiszeit 11.02
    PP-Time 0.40
    Even-Strength 10:22
    Shots on Goal: 1
    +/- : +1

    Assisten zum Tor waren: W.Walz und A.Daigle
    Statistik nach 24 Partien somit:
    4 Goals 2 Assists +/- -2

    nicht schlecht für einen 'Rookie'