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Beiträge von Odegar1935

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 27. Juni 2022 um 09:00

    New italian surname is arriving, Puster fans you'll can start to cry in 3hours ;( , no more

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 26. Juni 2022 um 22:06

    It is clear that Bruneck fans are obsessed by Asiago :*

    I thought this before but honestly speaking I didn't know up to this point 😂😂😂

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 26. Juni 2022 um 13:39
    Zitat von bruneck73

    Odegar1935 ist anscheinend der Sohn des Asiago-Präsidenten.... (ist auch deren Pressesprecher)

    .... also wundern mich diese Aussagen nicht!

    Sind allerdings trotzdem beschämend!!!

    Stop to cry baby, hockey is a sport for man

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 26. Juni 2022 um 12:29
    Zitat von Lever

    I think that would be the best before you embarrass yourself with any more statements of this nature. Embarrassing, nothing else.

    the truth hurts

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 26. Juni 2022 um 11:45
    Zitat von Malone

    Geht es da um diese Aktion?

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    Im Kostüm steckte ein 13-jähriges Mädchen, das ins Brunecker Krankenhaus musste.

    this was a very bad episode that happened over 10 years ago Strazzabosco apologize for it. from Asiago side no one might have known that there was a young girl under the costume.

    Zitat von Lever

    weil die Pregame Show (wie bei jedem Spiel) noch voll am Laufen war und Asiago ..

    If you like you can call a pre game show a dog that piss on the opposite goal, this a your problem, but what happened before the matches on the ice in Brunek in that years was absolutely ugly and unsportsmanlike

    Zitat von Lever

    sondern ihn lediglich mit seiner rechten Hand von seinem Tor wegbewegen wollte; leider verlor das Maskottchen das Gleichgewicht und fiel auf das Eis, und der Versuch des Sportlers, seinen Sturz aufzuhalten, war vergeblich“.

    That happened, no one could know that under the costume there was a girl that would fly away just by looking at her

    Zitat von The Marmot

    Nicht unerwähnt bleiben sollte - nach dem Rekurs von Asiago - die unvergessliche 0:5-Heimniederlage am grünen Tisch im 5. Playoff-Finalspiel in der Saison 2010/2011. Diese Niederlage wirkt nicht minder nach.

    You played with an illegal roster and the 0-5 was the normal consequence (do not forget that in that years the Federation was controlled by south tyrol), by the way, I strongly urge your organization to pair Mair with someone to explain the rules to him ^^

    Zitat von Stange17

    Das interview von Mantovani


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    Ab 31 min. Viel Spaß

    I finally listened to this interview and Brunico wasn't being criticized at all, rather there was a very strong criticism of the AplsHL board and the demonstration of interest in trying to set up a new Italian championship, which obviously has not been followed up. And the fact that Asiagos' entry into the IceHL was made possible by the support of BZ and Brunico is evidence of this.

    I will not add any other comment about these topics, there is no sense to discuss about the ghosts that you see when you are talking about Asiago.

    Honestly speaking i'm here just to speak about the next season that will be very challenging for my team, and probably you'll have the chance to take some revenge so you will relax a bit

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 19:44
    Zitat von Lever

    I am surprised that he is leaving Asiago. I don't think it was because of the money. Something happened there.

    The money are always a part of the solution, for sure Miglioranzi will not gain less than in Asiago.

    The rumors say that he is in an awful relationship with the coach

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 19:40
    Zitat von Oachwolf

    . Es ist halt so. Und man sollte einfach dankbar sein, dass es diese leidenschaftliche Regionen überhaupt gibt. Und diese weiterhin unterstützen, damit es in z.B. 30 Jahren Eishockey überhaupt noch gibt.

    I agree at all, it is mandatory to sustain all the clubs that improved in these years, but it is not the solution to improve the Hockey in Italy, you need to enlarge the number of players, this is my opinion more quantity equals more quality

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 18:10

    Miglioranzi go away from Asiago to sign for another IceHL team, it seems BZ but it is no official, not yet. It will be in a couple of minutes :)

    Ciao Miglioranzi !!

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 16:51
    Zitat von slouberto

    If neither the development using youth teams and players, nor the plan bringing in Italo-Canadians/Americans can save the italian hockey, what should be done according to you? Or is it best if we just shut down all of our rinks and just leave the stage? :/

    We need to much time discuss this point, but to summarize very quickly you need a large number of players to find qualitative players and Brunico Asiago e Bolzano and the other small teams of the north est are not enough, the main goal of the federation should be to involve the big cities. But this is a very well known point.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 16:17
    Zitat von Lever

    You consider Asiago far too important for Brunico than they actually are for us. The games are always a great battle and the fan bases don't like each other, but it's far away from it when Bolzano is our guest. Nothing can top that, we finally got to experience that again last season.

    I am happy for you.

    Asiago has only great memory about the matches and the finals with Brunico, so for us is a great pleasure to come back to play with you.

    Honestly speaking i don't have a favorite rival, for sure the matches against the other Italian teams will be the top, this is from my side I'm not racing to belittle Brunico or Bolzano

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:56
    Zitat von Lever

    The biggest rival is and remains Bolzano and that will also remain the only true derby in Brunico ;)

    Probably you have to explain this to the Brunek fans in sonice forum :D

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:53
    Zitat von Lever

    That's exactly why they're going to open an academy in Brunico and have made a cut in Bolzano,

    Honestly speaking only you can see the cut in BZ, in my opinion next year BZ will have more Italos than the last one, but we will see

    Asiago is working strong with the youth teams since several years

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:43
    Zitat von traunsteiner

    hab diesen Beitrag jetzt nur als Beispiel, es herrscht hier scheinbar aus Bruneck eine gewisse Abneigung nach Asiago (milde ausgedrückt) gab es hier früher etwas gröberes oder ist das "nur" eine normale Rivalität , oder geht es eher in die politische Richtung bzgl Sprache usw ? Nur aus Interesse und nicht falsch verstehen, ist keine Kritik

    There are several old stories which have made the teams historic rivals. I think that the Brunek fans consider Asiago the main enemy on the ice

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:40
    Zitat von Lever

    I would then be interested to see what happens after 2026 when the federation stops paying and many of the Italos leave Italy. Then some of them will have to be replaced with Italians, but they could hardly be developed in the previous 4 years when almost every place for Italians was filled by an Italo-Canadian.

    I repeat my self at the moment there are more places than Italian players eligible for the senior teams, This is the situation today and it will be after the 2026.

    I think that the effort that Brunico, Bolzano and Asiago are doing for the youth activities are totally insufficient to have a real impact on the Italian hockey development

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:24
    Zitat von Sour-Fox

    Could you explain that, please?

    It seems that the Italian federation provide an economic contribution to all the Italian teams that sign players that are included in a list, Honestly speaking i don't know how these players are individuate, and as already wrote i don't know exactly how this agreement works,

    We don't know which players are in the list, the amount of the federation contribute, how many years it is valid, which teams have already used it, if there is a limit in terms of number of players for each teams.

    This is what i know, and it is not so much

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:18
    Zitat von Lever

    Sie wissen ja nicht mal was sie machen sollen, wenn sie einen Spieler jahrelang subventionieren und er dann 2026 doch keine Lust hat zu Olympia zu fahren. Gios selbst sagt dazu: „Das ist ein enormes Problem. Ich weiß leider nicht, wie es zu lösen ist. Es ergibt nämlich keinen Sinn, einen Profi zum Spielen zu zwingen, wenn er nicht hinter der Sache steht.“ Allein daran sieht man ja schon, dass das zum Scheitern verurteilt ist.

    The point is that we are speaking about something but no one of us know exactly how it works, We don't know which players are in the list, the amount of the federation contribute, how many years it is valid, which teams have already used it, if there is a limit in terms of number of players for each teams.

    I don't know if someone know it he can explain it please

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 15:14
    Zitat von Lever

    I know the rules and I don't question them, but I still think the procedure is questionable. That is just my opinion. I'm not going crazy in any way, I'm just expressing my opinion.

    I don't deny Asiago the right to use this possibility of the federation, because they clearly follow the rules. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with the approach and that everyone else who doesn't take this route is an idiot.

    This is your opinion, my opinion is that this is clearly an opportunity and i consider quite nonsensical do not take advantage of it.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 14:37
    Zitat von Lever

    Nobody said we'd save it, but there will be a reason why Brunico, but also now Bolzano, are only going for those Italo-Canadians they absolutely need and are putting more emphasis on young Italians like Felicetti, Glück, Spinell, Mantinger, Berger, Pitschieler, etc.

    Knoll, for example, is one of the best club managers in the entire league and if he doesn't jump on this plan of the federation but, just like Brunico, takes a different path that is more directed towards the future, with young Italians, then that will mean something.

    Please notice that at the moment BZ has signed 12 players for the next years and there are already 4 Italos and the new signed Frattin si in the same situation of Mascherin, so i think that any final consideration can be done at the end

    In my opinion there are very clear rules and these rules are the same for all the teams, so the fact that you go crazy for every Italian surname is really hilarious

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 14:05
    Zitat von bruneck73

    I would like to know who you are?

    The son af Mantovani (president of Asiago)?

    And the ONLY STUPID is this idea from the italian federation!!

    I'm really enjoying to read the Brunek fans, you are hilarious

    But i'm waiting that the Brunek youth teams will save the Italian Hockey :D :D :D :D

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 13:41

    Like Bardaro, Plastino, Mantenuto, Ginnetti...you are right

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 13:16
    Zitat von bruneck73

    Der nächste Italo.... sicher auch auf der Liste des Verbandes :P

    Wieder ein 3-Jahres-Vertrag!

    Zahlt der Verband eigentlich 3 Jahre das Gehalt mit? Ernstgemeinte Frage!

    Why not? the team has to sign 8/10 import, if you sign Italos there is a federation contribute and after 16 months they can also play as Italian only a stupid can not take in consideration the opportunity

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. Juni 2022 um 12:13

    Link to Asiago web site

    Asiago Hockey

    Prospect Profile: Giovanni Vallati

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  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 23. Juni 2022 um 16:23

    Usually Tessari is not unprepared, in Asiago for many reasons are very very strict on physical aspect. I hope they considered with attention the player status

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 22. Juni 2022 um 17:11
    Zitat von Tine

    Wenn das Geld offenbar zum Verschenken vorhanden ist, warum stärkt man da seitens des Verbands stattdessen nicht Nachwuchs- und/oder Infrastrukturprogramme?

    The budget needed to develop hockey in Italy is no comparable with the money available for this olimpic plan. The budget is provided by the coni just for the Olimpic games not for the Brunico or Asiago youth teams, it is not so difficult to understand.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 22. Juni 2022 um 16:32
    Zitat von Lever

    I'm surprised you guys are starting with Barasso since he has no experience at this level. We have extended the coach from the Alps at that time, that was a big mistake.

    He is a twice Stanley champ, this has a big impact especially for the north American players, he has a big charisma. IceHL is the higher level for him as head coach but he was experience as assistant coach in NHL and KHL. In Asiago he won 2 AlpsHL and scudetto so it is no so strange to continue with him. We'll see what happen

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