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Beiträge von Odegar1935

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 14. Oktober 2022 um 10:22
    Zitat von Odegar1935

    The president gave an interview, when? The league was presented in 2016, so the interview was given in 2016 at the beginning of the project as you refer in your post?

    This is an interview gave in 2021, you wrote Asiago was against AlpsHL since the beginning, what is not clear for you?

    I repeat you provide fake news about Asiago

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 14. Oktober 2022 um 09:44
    Zitat von Lever

    Es gibt Interviews von eurem Vereinspräsidenten, die sich jeder geben kann, wo er mehr als nur deutlich klarmacht, was er von der Idee der Alps und dem Zusammenarbeiten mit mehreren Verbänden gar nichts hält. Das kann sich jeder anhören, deswegen lass sich auf diese Diskussion gar nicht erst ein.

    The president gave an interview, when? The league was presented in 2016, so the interview was given in 2016 at the beginning of the project as you refer in your post?

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 14. Oktober 2022 um 09:21
    Zitat von Lever

    Wenn sich die Chance ergibt, würde kein Verein Nein dazu sagen. Der Schritt in die ICE war, was das Zuschauerinteresse betrifft eine Flucht nach vorne, weil es in der Alps ständig zurückging. Man gibt deswegen zwar immer der Liga und dem Niveau selbst die Schuld, aber so ganz stimmt das nicht, weil man war nie wirklich gewillt das Produkt Alps anständig den Leuten zu verkaufen. Die Vereinsführung hat die Alps von Beginn an schlechtgeredet und den multinationalen Gedanken hinterfragt. Stattdessen hat man immer wieder die Gründung einer rein italienischen Serie A propagiert. Wenn man das den Fans jahrelang vorkaut, dann wird das Interesse auch nicht groß sein. Ich würde beide Hände ins Feuer legen, dass das Zuschauerinteresse bei einer zusammengewürfelten Serie A doppelt so groß wäre.

    I'm sorry but you are very poorly informed, Asiago was very active to develop the AlpsHL project. One of the first organization, in my memory the first one but i can be wrong, to push several initiatives to provide more visibility to the league ( for example Asiago provided the streaming since the first year in AlpsHL and fight a lot to make it mandatory). But if the more competitive Austrian teams are the junior clubs, Brunico end Lubjana leave the league, no one is interested to lift up the rosters quality it is clear the there is no more interest in this solution. Asiago was the first sponsor of the AlpsHL since the beginning, you have to review your informations, as often happen about Asiago.

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 13. Oktober 2022 um 14:51
    Zitat von Raptor X30

    Please excuse my question, but do you think it was the right step for your ICEHL entrance?

    Wouldn't it have been better to play another season in the AHL?

    I don't know enough about your team, but how is the reaction from the fans and the environment about ICE?

    From a sporting point of view, it makes the impression, that you can't keep up in this league.

    A comparison:

    In Pustertal there was euphoria, also due to the new ice rink, of course. But from beginning they had a team with winning mentality, that's good for the fans.

    In Asiago, however, there is neither a new hall nor spectators who show interest. That gives cause for concern.

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    I understand your doubts, in this moment are absolutely normal.

    What i can say is that Asiago organization is very ambitious. In the last 10/15 years the club obtain several good results, also when BZ and Brunico played in the same league. I think that who is in charge to build the roster has big experience and skills, but for sure at the moment the results are not confirming this. For sure they do not build a team just to participate, they have clear in mind their target. Obviously there is a big difference between have ideas and concretize them. So I'm quite confident that the team will have a positive trend during the season. this is from the sporting point of view. And i'm sure that they are able to learn from their mistakes.

    About the spectators it is really a critical point from my point of you. Asiago lost several spectators in alpsHL due to the quality of the league, then there was the covid, so my expectation was that there would be a different interest respect the actual. I don't understand really why so many fans didn't come back to the arena. I thought many different reasons: there is a big gap of costs from the last seasons and the current one, the match are really early respect the usual (consider that a big number of fans come from lowland so they need at least 40 minutes by car to join the arena. so play at 19.45 instead of 20.30 can be the difference), but honestly speaking i don't know. i hope that slowly the people will be back as in the italian championship. Let me just add that the cheaper tickets are for the standing places and they are located at the top of the arena, so yesterday at least 200 spectators were not visible in the video, but anyway the presences are too low at the moment.

    I can not make comparison with Brunico, for sure a boring discussion would start with the valpusteria fans and i really want avoid it, let me say that they had a first big season in IceHL, Bolzano is an important club in IceHL and both agreed to involve Asiago in the league, they recognize the Asiago capabilities to develop their project even if there is a big sporting rivalry.

    Sorry for my long post, but I'm quite sure that the final impact of Asiago in the league will be positive, probably we need more time than we expected but the club will work hard also to improve the arena, some works are scheduled also in November ( i think but im not sure). and when the results trend will be better than now i hope that the fans will be back

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 13. Oktober 2022 um 09:37

    For sure Asiago played the worse match of the season.

    Nothing worked, also the approach to the game was awful, for the first time it seemed the the team has no will to fight.

    I hope that it was a wrong day, but no excuses in this we way will win no matches.

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. Oktober 2022 um 14:59
    Zitat von Haxo

    Da gehört aber halt auch eine gehörige Portion "Selbstüberschätzung" dazu zu glauben, dass die Kraxnpartien aus der ICE irgendewen hinterm Ofen hervorholen, der nicht direkt in das Geschehen involviert ist.

    Wären wir nicht durch diese komische "Gründungsligen-Regelung" irgendwie in die CHL gerutscht, wäre das nämlich genau unsere Kragenweite.

    Und ob die ICE Mannschaft Asiago gegen Teams wie Jesenice, Cardiff, Angers oder Nitra zum souveränen Sieg in dem Wettbewerb spazieren wird, will ich erst sehen bevor ich es glaube.

    I agree with you, this is a very ambitious target for Asiago, It will be very tough and if it will happen it will be a historic moment for the organization

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. Oktober 2022 um 14:56
    Zitat von Tine

    Ich habe jetzt noch einmal die Teilnemer des Continental Cup genau durchgeschaut.

    Das weiß man gar nicht, auf welches Spektakel man sich mehr freuen soll - schließlich winkt ein internationaler Schlagabtausch mit Größen wie

    Skautafelag Akureyrar (ISL)

    FC Barcelona (ESP)

    Hockey Punks Vilnius (LTU)

    NSA Sofia (BUL)

    Vojvodina Novi Sad (SRB)

    SC Miercurea Ciuc (ROU)

    Sorry für meinen Sarkasmus, aber DAS wird ja wohl kein primäres Ziel für ein Team sein, das eine ernsthafte und langfristige Teilnahme an der ICEHL im Fokus hat. :P

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    it seems you are not very friendly with this competition, for sure it is not the champions league, not all the teams are at high level but there are also good enough teams. In the competition there are teams from leagues as French, uk, Poland and these leagues are providing teams also in the champions. Last year Cracovia won the Continental and this year they defeated Villach in champion, so the level is not so bad. Let me say for example that the turkey team signed 12 Russian players, some of these have hundreds of presences in KHL and some sporadic in NHL. So it is not the most important tournament but it is not so bad. I hope that Asiago has a roster to win this round and the next one but it will not so easy. I don't know if we'll see spectacular matches in Asiago, but it could be more funny than Tiger-Villach.

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. Oktober 2022 um 12:24
    Zitat von kacfan12

    Sorry but nobody is interested in this competition, its absolutely useless. Trying to win games in the league should be number one target

    This is your opinion, there are prestigious teams that won this competition.

    For sure The Continental is the first target of Asiago, and then to make experience in IceHL. No one thinks to underestimate the league but till January the main effort will be spent in continental

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. Oktober 2022 um 12:01
    Zitat von Tine

    Das dürften richtige Europacupschlachten werden gegen serbische, türkische und/oder ukrainische Vereine. :rolleyes:

    Das "first" target sollte wohl eher sein, 4-stellige Zuschauerzahlen in der "heimischen" Liga zu erreichen.

    I agree with you that Asiago at the moment has to grow up in several aspect, also the audience.

    In this round the opponents are not has not a big appeal, but in the semi final and final the level should be better.

    it is several year that Asiago is playing to win this cup and this year there are real chances to do it. Asiago would be the first Italian team to win this competition.

  • 9. R.: Asiago Hockey : EC KAC, Mittwoch 12.10.2022, 19:45

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. Oktober 2022 um 09:42

    Asiago have lost all the home matches in the last minutes of the third period.

    The Asiago fan trust in this team and have always cheered after lost matches

    For sure the defensive phase has to improve, and i saw improvement match after match. I think that we'll se the real value of the team in December when Mascherin will join the roster and also S. Marchetti will be back.

    Consider also that the first target for this season is the continental cup and it will start next Friday in Asiago.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. September 2022 um 17:50

    Tough match against the IceHL champ. All the Asiago fans were very happy for the team performance.

    First Red Bull goal is a a great gift from Fazio, it can happen.

    Then the team had a big reaction and they all pushed together.

    the winning goal happened due to too mach space left in the center of the defense, which has already happened in Innsbruck.

    Much bad luck for the post hit 2 minutes from the end that could lead the game to the OT.

    In my opinion Asiago has big possibility to improve in the next weeks, waiting Macherin.

    Quite happy for the attendance but i hope that it will be more large this evening.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 24. September 2022 um 17:32
    Zitat von Lever

    Speilt Asiago konsequent mit 4 Linien?

    the fourth line had enough time on the ice

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 19. September 2022 um 11:17

    Severe defeat in Innsbruck. the team was not able to repeat the match played at Graz in terms of intensity and discipline. In my opinion it is quite normal in this moment of the season. Barrasso alternated the goalies, but i can't say that Vallini performed bad.

    Innsbruck played very well, specially in the second period, and scored at least a couple of very nice goals

    At the end if someone had proposed me to sign for 3 points in 2 away games for sure I have signed.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 17. September 2022 um 01:38

    very happy for the win. I'm really impressed by the intensity. The first period was not easy for Asiago but they didn't give up, i didn't see spectacular actions and great understanding between the players, for sure the team needs time to improve the hockey quality.

    we will see if there is enough skills in this roster, at the moment i saw big effort on the ice.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 12. September 2022 um 22:57
    Zitat von ShadowCastle

    Ich habe ein Gerücht gehört, eine Bedingung für die Aufnahme von Asiago war, dass sie den Gäste Mannschaften das Hotel und Essen zahlen müssen. Kann das stimmen?

    Yes it is correct, I don't think it is applicable for all teams

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 7. September 2022 um 10:29
    Zitat von Hansi79

    Was Fazio the starting goalie ?

    yes, yesterday Vallini had a slight injury ( hit by the puck) during the warm-up, so the back up was Longhini. Fazio played 60 min.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 7. September 2022 um 09:20

    Last Asiago preparation game..

    The yellow-red won the sixth Italian Super Cup, but another not brilliant performance on the ice.

    Unterland-Asiago 3-4 OT

    The next match will be the first one in the IceHL, it seems clear that the team is not ready yet

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  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 5. September 2022 um 09:58

    Second Asiago preparation game

    Innsbruck - Asiago 4-2

    Asiago players not available:

    Saracino-Salinitri-Moncada (Mascherin)


    1° att. - Vankus – McShane – Finoro
    2° att. - Marchetti – Misley – Porco
    3° att. - Zampieri – Stevan – Magnabosco
    4° att. - Manganelli – Rigoni F. – Longhini

    1° dif. - Rutkowski – Casetti
    2° dif. - Gazzola – Vallati
    3° dif. - Forte – Gios
    4° dif. - Parini – Rigoni F.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 30. August 2022 um 11:09

    Prima partita di preparazione 22/23 per Asiago, Jesenice 19:00 (no streaming)

    Giocatori Asiago non disponibile:

    Saracino ferito

    Mascher ferito

    Moncada non ancora in Italia

    Risultato finale

    Jesenice-Asiago 2-0

    1° att. - Salinitri – McShane – Finoro
    2° att. - Marchetti – Misley – Vankus
    3° att. - Zampieri – Stevan – Magnabosco
    4° att. - Manganelli – Rigoni F. – Longhini

    1° dif. - Gazzola – Casetti
    2° dif. - Rutkowski – Vallati
    3° dif. - Forte – Gios
    4° dif. - Parini – Rigoni F.

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 13:53
    Zitat von bruneck73

    .

    ... ich für meinen Teil habe aber nie solche respektlosen Kommentare hier herausgehauen wie der werte Odegar1935

    really? :veryhappy: :veryhappy: :veryhappy: :veryhappy:

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 13:48
    Zitat von Lever

    Odegar1935

    Die Abstimmung damals über die Aufnahme von Asiago ging sehr knapp pro Asiago aus. Rate mal, wie die beiden italienischen Klubs abgestimmt haben? Du ziehst zwar ständig über den HCP her, scheinst aber selbst nicht zu kapieren, dass der auch seinen Anteil daran hatte, dass ihr überhaupt in dieser Liga spielen dürft. Denk mal darüber nach, bevor du wieder deinen Dünnschiss von dir gibst ;)

    I don't complain about your team at all, I don't stalk your thread

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 13:45
    Zitat von AM34

    Bin jetzt absolut nicht involviert aber für mich wirkt diese immer wiederkehrende Aussage wie eine Schutzreaktion, weil die „Angst“ eigentlich doch auf Seiten von Asiago liegt.

    Ok i'll stop immediately to write in the brunico thread, i'll try to control my obsession from now :D

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 11:29
    Zitat von Pioneer

    Ist der User nicht Mitarbeiter des Clubs? Wie kann man so etwas vom Stapel lassen?

    I think the only employee of the club could be lever, they never learn :veryhappy:

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 10:58
    Zitat von Ernsthaft

    Odegar1935

    Du wirst schon noch sehen das in der ICE auf einem ganz anderen Level gespielt wird als in der Nachwuchsliga ALPS.

    I'm sure, honestly speaking i have no great expectation for the first year in IceHL. the roster has obvious weaknesses such as defense and the several imports are very young. We can discuss about this. another point is the Brunico fans obsession for Asiago. Let me say that the main target is absolutely the continental cup for the next year

  • Migross Supermercati Asiago Hockey Saison 2022/2023

    • Odegar1935
    • 29. August 2022 um 10:24
    Zitat von bruneck73

    Das wichtigste war gestern mal die ganzen gewonnenen Pokale bei der Vorstellung der Mannschaft aufzustellen.....

    .... weiss nicht was man sich damit in der ICE kaufen will :D

    Really are you surprise that a team that won 4 trophies in a season share them in the first official event? :D :D :D :D amazing :D :D :D

    Zitat von Lever

    Das mag sein. „Zu leicht“ war die Alps aber trotzdem nicht für sie, das hat das heurige Playoff deutlich gezeigt. Solche Aussagen sind nichts anderes als überheblich und respektlos.

    your frustration with Asiago is really embarrassing

    Zitat von eest

    Naja, wenn man Mannschaften wie Linz 2 und Wien 2 in der Liga hat, ist es schwer, die Liga ernst zu nehmen. Bei mindestens 1/3 der Spiele ist es nicht rentabel, die Tribünen zu öffnen.

    I had big expectations on the alpsHL but unfortunately the league didn't develop as it was desirable

    Zitat von bruneck73

    Den Asiaghesi wird schon noch bewusst werden, dass das keine Alps ist wo sie gelandet sind :P.

    You have seen 1 year of IceHL and you are speaking as the Hockey Guru, but the point is that you are terrified that the story will continue as in AlpsHL and serie A so you will be took the piss not only in Italy but also in Austria :veryhappy:

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