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Beiträge von kabidjan14

  • Red Bull Kritikthread part2

    • kabidjan14
    • 8. April 2017 um 08:44

    My critique of the Red Bull program mainly lies in its structure and the lies many of it's players are fed. It inherently prevents young athletes from getting the exposure, not only for the NHL draft, but even for their National Team sides. Especially in the AlpsHL era of player contracts it seems U18 athletes are forced almost exclusively to play against Czech U18 athletes in the rookie cup. That means the most talented Austrian U18 athletes play their season against less talented 15 and 16 year old Czechs.

    ...and then they mock Villach and Vienna for playing their kids in the EBJL. It's ridiculous. No skater is going to get drafted from the Rookie Cup, but they encourage their skaters to stay their draft year playing against terrible competition saying "this will prepare you for the big jump", despite statistics inherently going against their claims. There is a horror story they tell. Cedric Schiemenz, god forbid, left before his draft year. When he got to the CHL he played very few minutes. Obviously he should have stayed. He would have had the extra year to prepare and would have been a star once he got over.

    Except no Salzburg export has ever succeeded in the CHL. Whether they stay a year or don't stay a year has been regardless. Max Kislinger and Ced Schiemenz left early, they didn't get drafted, Kislinger scored 20 and Ced scored 9 his draft season. Dario Winkler stayed an extra year, so did Maximlian Glassl. Did it help? Not at all. Winkler had 12 points and Glassl had 12 as well. Erik Palmqvist left for the SuperElit league after spending his draft year in the Rookie Cup. Did he do well there? Not at all. 10 points in 35 games.

    Playing in North America is something you have or you don't. A large determining factor is simply talent. Not everyone can do it, and success against little children from Czech clubs doesn't translate all that well to better leagues. I don't think people realize how drastic the change is from playing in the Rookie Cup to playing in the USHL or the NCAA. For example, rapidshot metrics that I gathered indicate that the average shot speed in the Rookie Cup team is in the high 40s, low 50s. Average shot speed in the USHL/CHL contingency available is in the high 60s. That's a different of anywhere between 15-20 mph, or 25-32 kph. Average size in the Rookie Cup is around 177 cm 72kg, in the WHL players are between 184-185 cm and 83-84 kg, not to mention the size of the rink and the differences in style of play. An extra year in the Rookie Cup does not prepare an athlete better for NA leagues. However, the AlpsHL team isn't filled with the brightest and best U18 talent but 95 and 96 born athletes, some from Austria and some not, who posses little to no prospect value.

    I obviously don't hate the Red Bull Academy, I've done quite a lot of work both getting athletes to the academy and working with athletes in the Academy. The coaching is wonderful. The foreign coaches especially have a great eye for talent. The facilities are incredible, if a bit underutilized after hours. The structure is a killer though. Every coach I talk to stresses one thing, play the youngsters at the senior level, play the youngsters at the senior level, senior level experience, senior level experience. Kids really see their development stunted in the Red Bull program because they do not receive ample opportunities to play in the AlpsHL and the EBEL before their moves to NA or Sweden or elsewhere. Nobody would love more than me for the next big Austrian prospect to come out of Salzburg, but until the system adjusts to properly train and develop their youths I don't see that happening.

  • Nationalteams Nachwuchs

    • kabidjan14
    • 2. April 2017 um 21:50

    Team Red beats Team White 4-1 in first #AUTU18 scrimmage, Red Goals: Baumgartner, Zitz, Huber, Fässler/ White Goals: Tröthan

  • Peter Schneider @ Kalamazoo Wings

    • kabidjan14
    • 2. April 2017 um 20:58

    No, I don't think he has an NHL ceiling. But this guy will be a great addition for any EBEL that takes him next year. Mid-six forward who can be very productive, could even play top six on some squads in some schemes. I think whichever EBEL team he lands on he'll be able to elevate to the next level. One of if not the biggest Austrian free agent up for grabs this off-season.

  • Nationalteams Nachwuchs

    • kabidjan14
    • 31. März 2017 um 09:33

    Previewing the Austrian 2016-17 U18 National Hockey Team: The Intro
    https://authockeytxreports.wordpress.com/2017/03/31/pre…team-the-intro/

  • EBYSL Playoffs 2016/2017

    • kabidjan14
    • 29. März 2017 um 00:36

    Wonder what potential Sebastian Habernig has.

    On the other hand I would really expect a guy like Felix Maxa to dominate much more at that level.

  • Nationalmannschaft der Zukunft

    • kabidjan14
    • 23. März 2017 um 21:45

    He had a concussion, I don't know anything else though, I'd like to...

  • Halbfinale #3: VIC - HCB

    • kabidjan14
    • 19. März 2017 um 19:49

    https://twitter.com/peterkarlik/status/843532743216631809
    Congrats on selling out the stadium, 7022, impressive attendance.

  • Nationalteams Nachwuchs

    • kabidjan14
    • 18. März 2017 um 07:09

    Open Letter: To the Athletes Crossing the Pond or Moving Abroad this Fall
    https://authockeytxreports.wordpress.com/2017/02/25/ope…pond-this-fall/

  • Peter Schneider @ Kalamazoo Wings

    • kabidjan14
    • 18. März 2017 um 05:34

    1G 2A against the Indy Fuel, his original team, today.

    He's coming back to Austria next year, he'll be one of the biggest Austrian targets on the market. He's not a superstar, but he's a very solid forward, a top 6 forward for a mid 6 EBEL team or a mid 6 forward for a top 6 EBEL team. 38 points in 52 games, 33 in 42 games for Kalamazoo. His game will translate very well to the European surface because he's fast and he uses his speed a lot. He also has a good mix of strength and physicality and redirects pucks in front of the net well.

    One of his best goals here.

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  • Transfergeflüster EC Red Bull Salzburg 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 16. März 2017 um 01:07

    Salzburg is great for once a decade prospects like Viveiros and Komarek. The academy is also pretty good for top prospects. The key is "Top" and the problem isn't the EBEL team or the academy but individual players not having objective views on their futures.

    Viveiros is the top Austrian D prospect from Ulmer in 90' to Payr in 00'. Salzburg's a great place for him. Komarek's the best forward prospect from M. Raffl to Haudum, Salzburg provided a great bridge for him as well. Maybe, maybe it'll work for Mario Huber too, I certainly hope so.

    I think a dose of realism is healthy. Baltram isn't going to get good ice time next year, neither is Jakubitzka, neither is Daniel Wachter. They're great guys, but not generational talents, and Salzburg demands Championship level hockey whether it takes 10+ legios like last year or ~8 legios like this year.

    Salzburg academy isn't for Salzburgers, it's not a feeder for EC Salzburg either, it's an academy for Austrians. That's the rosiest way of putting it at least, the reality is different. Salzburg II did well in the AlpsHL, and the rest of the league should reap from that.

  • EBYSL Playoffs 2016/2017

    • kabidjan14
    • 14. März 2017 um 19:00

    Austria's best players don't play in the EBYSL or the EBJL, so I don't think it's at all an indicator of the state of international hockey.

  • Transfergeflüster: HC TWK Innsbruck "Die Haie" 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 11. März 2017 um 16:31

    I would be disappointed in the Huber deal for multiple reasons if he left. There's a saying in business, don't be too stingy on equity in the early stages of your business, make sure the business succeeds instead so the equity you have has value. Bernd Freimuller said once concerning Huber that his ceiling is above the EBEL, and this I concur with. It is highly likely that he would receive more opportunities to play, both at ES and on the PP, staying in Innsbruck rather than moving to Salzburg or say Vienna.

    That's why occasionally the complaints I hear about the point system, Canadian coaches, etc. fall upon deaf ears. Don't get me wrong, those are problems in their own rights. However, when someone says "there's no room for young Austrian players in the EBEL" what they effectively mean is "there's no room for young Austrian players in Red Bull Salzburg." I get it, clubs like HCI pay less and have this silly rule about where you need to be from, and I don't think they should be proud of either.

    However, if you're a genuinely talented young Austrian athlete, you're looking for playing time, there are clubs where you can go and get solid 3rd line minutes with a legio on your line, some PP time and build your game, increase your value like Huber did this year, and then there are clubs where you can go sit behind veterans and legios but hey, your initial salary I'm sure is a little higher. And then at the end of the year we all come together and say "it's the point system" or "it's the Canadian coaches" and we shake our finger at them. Again, I'm not saying those things are good or optimal, but if you go turn down better situations for development for places where your development is sub-optimal, then just take your immediate paycheck and call it what it is.

    I don't know Huber's offers, and I more than hope the best for him, but it better be a truly undeniable sum that indicates heavily that Salzburg is willing to invest a lot in him moving forward.

  • Transfergeflüster: HC TWK Innsbruck "Die Haie" 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 11. März 2017 um 07:46
    Zitat von starting sex

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=91240

    :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

    Why Mario why...the other clubs may seem nice but they're really mean and cold and big and scary X( <X ||

    On a more serious note though I don't understand the decision. Unless he's getting like Lebler-esque money, he made the right call before turning down money up front for a chance to enhance his position, I can't imagine what type of sums it took.

  • Transfergeflüster: HC TWK Innsbruck "Die Haie" 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 11. März 2017 um 07:00
    Zitat von starting sex

    Jeden Tag News in der Halle :D

    Mario verlässt die Haie Ziel noch unbekannt ;)

    Nechvatal wurde ja schon mehrmals genannt wird auch immer konkreter und soll die Tschechenfraktion verstärken

    Spurgeon und Smith stehen ebenfalls vor einem Abschluss

    und aus de mNachwuchs die U16 spielt heute und morgen im HF zweimal auswärts gegen den KAC
    Den Burschen rund um Glieber Patrick und Eisank Basti alles Gute und viel Glück ihr werdet es brauchen :thumbup:

    ein eventuelles drittes Spiel wäre am Dienstag in IBK

    Alles anzeigen

    Whoah whoah slow down, which Mario are we talking here, Important Mario or Legio Mario?

  • Transfergeflüster: HC TWK Innsbruck "Die Haie" 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 6. März 2017 um 08:49

    It would be cool to get Philip Michael-Devos or Jonathan Hazen. I'd be willing to bet Ajoie can't pay both of them next year, but a richer EBEL club might.

  • Nationalteams Nachwuchs

    • kabidjan14
    • 4. März 2017 um 09:00

    Scattershooting the Austrian Hockey Scene: Coaching, EBEL Rookies
    https://authockeytxreports.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/sca…g-ebel-rookies/

  • Transfergeflüster EC VSV 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 3. März 2017 um 09:08
    Zitat von costigan

    Bin allerdings gespannt wie er da mit seinen eisläuferischen Qualitäten überzeugen will.
    Für mich bleibt er vom bisher gesehenen maximal ein 3. bzw. 4. Linien EBEL-Spieler, außer er macht in NA einen überaus großen Schritt nach vorne.

    Regarding Pusnik's game I think he's fine. The importance of skating ability is incredibly overstated locally. He was electrifying in Mac's. It's hard to project how he'll do in NA because he's very average at everything that isn't stickhandling and shooting (size, hockey IQ, hands, physical play), however, I think he'll do better than a Kromp, Winkler or Baltram.

  • Transfergeflüster: HC TWK Innsbruck "Die Haie" 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 26. Februar 2017 um 10:18

    I think their main objective is to extend all the current legios, especially the forwards. The objective I would add is adding Dario Winkler...if they pull it off then watch out. The upgrade that would be from Fabio Schramm and Patrick Mossmer, would really help the 3rd line for sure.

  • Damen-U18-Nationalteam 2016/17

    • kabidjan14
    • 26. Februar 2017 um 07:55

    Has the women's program ever considered entering the Women's Beantown Classic? They would probably participate in the Future's Blue Division.

    http://beantownclassic.com/events/womens-classic/

  • Transfergeflüster EC VSV 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 25. Februar 2017 um 07:40

    In the same vein with the Rauchenwald discussion, would fans be interested in Daniel Wachter or Christof Wappis?

  • Transfergeflüster EC VSV 2017/18

    • kabidjan14
    • 24. Februar 2017 um 16:51

    Is there an extension on the way for Kromp?

  • Nationalteams Nachwuchs

    • kabidjan14
    • 17. Februar 2017 um 06:37

    Aalborg Highlights and Game Film
    https://authockeytxreports.wordpress.com/2017/02/17/aal…m-for-anaylsis/

  • 7.R.: EC Red Bull Salzburg-EC Klagenfurter AC

    • kabidjan14
    • 14. Februar 2017 um 22:10

    Congrats to Layne Viveiros on his 20 point season. His year to year improvement is wonderful, I personally think his ceiling is above the EBEL.

  • Österreichcup Graz 2017-02

    • kabidjan14
    • 13. Februar 2017 um 22:58

    Haha, calm down.

    First of all, Bader's role prior to now has basically been assistant sports director. He's been with the program as the assistant sports director for what, 2-3 years, he's added the head coach role for just a few months. I also didn't say he has to become exclusively the sports director, however, the money should be available now to pursue a new head coach, and I have confidence that he can be an effective sports director. He hasn't shirked on his duties either since he took on the head coaching role he still travels and does all the seminars and also travels to other places to check up on other prospects. Only the Divison 3B teams have a sports director who also coaches the NT, the U20, the U18 etc. There's no guarantee either that if you hire another guy for the specific role of sports director that he will be a hit. Bader is familiar with the youth system, depending on what money permits and what he feels is the best utilization of his time there will be a lot more options once Suhonen is gone.

    If I was unclear, the names I floated were for U20 coaches...

  • Österreichcup Graz 2017-02

    • kabidjan14
    • 13. Februar 2017 um 21:36

    Best case scenario I think is to let Suhonen's contract run out and renew Bader as the new General Manager. He's no doubt a lot cheaper than Suhonen and will probably be more effective. Perhaps then a separate head coach could be hired. A new U20 coach would also have to take over, I'd recommend Paul Ullrich as the Head Coach because he doesn't coach a team currently but I'd also really like to see Teemu Levijoki and Daniel Schildorfer involved.

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