Vienna Capitals Farmteam in der Erste Liga

Zitat von kabidjan14

Wow, they had 45 SOG to 23, and lost 4-2. One goalie wad much hotter than the other goalie.

What do you mean with your comment, SOG does not really say anything about the goalieperformance?

Zitat von kabidjan14

Well let's see, the other goalie blocked 43 of 45 shots for a 95.56% save rate. One goal wasn't that good a goal but one of the GA was just a really bad turnover from the Defensemen or a lucky bounce, however you choose to see it. The Vienna goalie got beaten 3 times, over the shoulder once on a snapshot with no screen, too slow going east to west once, and once failing to cover up on a dirty goal. 86.96% save rate. It seems obvious that one goalie did far better than the other.

Of course, it is possible that the 43 blocked shots from the opposing goaltender were all straight to the chest, and all the 20 saves made by the vienna goaltender were amazing sprawled out glove saves and stick saves. I doubt it, but I may be proved wrong.

Very professional explanation from TX, “haha”, so far away. It seems you only have seen the short video summary and not the whole match. Your analysis is seriously lacking in detail.

Below the summary of the Headcoach (I know that you understand German as good as English): “… ich bin wirklich zufrieden. Mein Team hat heute Eishockey gespielt wie wir uns das vorstellen. Klar ist jedoch, dass wir an der Chancenverwertung noch arbeiten müssen.“

Zitat von kabidjan14

Yes, you got me with that very specific and insightful quote I presume came from a press release. I couldn't have found that on the internet anywhere.

When one goaltender lets in far lower quality goals, and gets out-saved by almost 10% the burden of proof is not incumbent upon me to show that he was not inferior to the other goalie. It's incumbent upon you to show that he was not. "You didn't watch the whole game" isn't a cogent argument because right now, all the evidence that is present supports my position. You can absolutely introduce new evidence of your own to support your own counter-points, I'd love to hear it. However, pointing out that I don't have more evidence than what I already provided doesn't debunk my position. A counter-argument does.

You don't understand what I mean. To assess the performance of a team only about a press release is a bit like reading tea leaves and to assess only one teamplayer is not serious and unfair. And I believe you don't understand the sense of a farmteam.

Zitat von Kronos

Idee: gehts doch einmal auf ein Bier, ihr zwei. Seid ja eh offenbar immer wieder bei denselben Spielen.

Spricht nix dagegen, nur das ist ja ein Fernbeurteiler, offiziell aus Texas, wenns wahr ist. Is mir a bisserl zu weit.

Zitat von snake1

also die goalis trifft da die wenigste schuld.

Seh ich auch so, ein überwiegender Teil der Tore sind 1:1 Situationen oder freie Schussbahn zwischen 3 und 6m. Was willst da tun als Goalie?

Analyse Spiel gegen UTE - insgesamt 45 Saves;

Torfolge:

1 … Gestocher vorm Tor, irgendwie ist der Puck im Tor

2 … 2 m vorm Tor freie Schussbahn

3 … Pass auf freien Mann, 4 m vorm Tor freie Schussbahn

4 … 4 m vorm Tor, kein Verteidiger, freie Schussbahn, Torhüter Sicht verstellt

5 … 1:1 Situation, linkes Kreuzeck

6 … 1. Schuss abgewehrt, Rebound

7 … freier Schuss aus dem Pullikreis ohne Behinderung

8 … ebenso, nur backhand

9 … freier Schuss aus dem Pullikreis, Abwehr, vom eigenem Spieler ins Tor abgelenkt

Den KAC Youngsters in der Alps-Liga geht's übrigens auch nicht anders. Und das sind alles Goalies aus dem U20 Nationalteam, so schlecht werden die nicht sein.

Zitat von WAT stadlau4EVER

Heute Abend geht's nochmal im Grunddurchgang auswärts gegen MAC Budapest.

Soll ein Fernsehspiel sein in Ungarn, weiss da jemand was näheres? Kann man sich den Sender irgendwo anschaun?

Oder gibt's einen livestream?