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Capitals 2009/10...season so far

  • ofiskaa
  • 3. November 2009 um 13:33
  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 13:33
    • #1

    Here are my marks for the players. From 1-6, 1 being worst, 6 being best. Not the crazy austrian way...when is ever 1 best on the dice?? :)

    Goalies:

    35 Frederic Cassivi: 4.

    91,49% is not bad and has had some very good matches. But he also seems to do weird things. I like Cassivi and i think he can be a very good goalie in the playoffs, but for now 4. Closer to 5 than 3.

    30 Rudolf Hummel: No Mark

    Only played 40 minutes. 40 perfect minutes. Hopefully back from injury soon and will get to play against lower ranked teams at home.

    Defence:

    24 Darcy Werenka: 5

    He might be old and slow, but what a player Werenka is. Has been very important in the last matches with all the injuries and is excellent to play along Schweda or Riener. 19 points on 20 matches is very nice too.

    20 Peter Casparsson: 5

    I am not a big Casparsson fan, i dont really understand his game always, but so far this season it has been very effective. Not elegant, but get things done and is +9 so far.

    8 Francois Bouchard: 4

    Had a very good early season, disappeared a bit, but has lately been good again. Also very important in the injury crisis and has played forward lately. Is one of the worst players on the +/- stats.

    28 Dan Bjornlie: 4

    Excellent defender, but not at his best so far. Also too much injured.

    4 Philippe Lakos: 4

    One fight, one win. Maybe not the defender you see the most, but is doing things easy and is +10. Has made a nice comeback in Wien.

    38 Ales Kranjc: 3

    Has not been as good as i expected. Seem to be a bit on the way back into form.

    2 Peter Schweda: 3

    Finally looks like he is comfortable on the ice in EBEL. Maybe these injuries was a blessing in disguise for him?

    19 Josi Riener: 2

    I gave up on Riener after his two 2min penalties within 4:05 against Graz...useless! Looks to have come back from that, but need some time to convince me.

    Defender/Forward:
    40 Tino Teppert 3

    I like Tino, but he is for sure not very effective! 200 matches and one goal... Of course he role is not to score goals, but it wouldnt hurt :) Seems to have got rid of some of the stupid errors from last year and looks to head for good season.

    Forwards:

    25 Benoit Gratton: 6

    Incredible start to the season. Has to play with players that are not close to his league, still manage to run the team on his own. Very strong and +17 shows how important he is.

    6 Rafael Rotter: 5

    Like a wind on the wing. Here there fucking everywhere. The first matches were not so good, but has lately a very good record and when he hits on the passes he is very important for the team. Not a natural born goalscorer.

    16 Daniel Nageler: 5

    Come from nowhere and is top goalscorer in the team. Bargain of the season!

    12 David Rodman: 4

    Much better start to the season than brother Marcel. Been very important for the team in the crisis and seem to come closer to the big form

    29 Sean Selmser: 4

    The glue in the team. Extremely important short handed and has done a good job with the youth in his lines. Dont understand why he gets to play so much PP tho (at least not before the injuries)

    47 Harald Ofner: 4

    Hard working and get things done. Will be an important player in the season.

    7 Kevin Kraxner: 3

    Very quick...but...does it ever happen anything? Not so often...hard working, but not in Selmser or Ofners class.

    22 Marcel Rodman: 3

    Disappointing start to the season, never looked his best. Hopefully he can come back from the injury now and improve his game.

    77 Christoph Draschkowitz: 3

    Seem to have settled in better than his brother and has EBEL level on his game.

    44 Marc Tropper: 2

    Not good when he players before his injury. Never close to last years form. Need to improve or else Capitals whould consider other options for him.

    17 Lukas Draschkowitz: 2

    Doesnt seem to be ready for EBEL.

    13 Patrick Lebeau: 1

    God, how bad he was before the injury! Must come back after this injury or else his career is over. Capitals should consider options here.

    86 Christian Dolezal: No mark

    Not been on the ice...will he play this season?

  • RexKramer
    NHL
    • 3. November 2009 um 13:46
    • #2
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    Here are my marks for the players. From 1-6, 1 being worst, 6 being best. Not the crazy austrian way...when is ever 1 best on the dice?? :)

    Whenever you want to have it as low as possible :P which is not so uncommon, or do you try to become 6th or 1st when you compete?

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 14:01
    • #3
    Zitat von RexKramer

    Whenever you want to have it as low as possible :P which is not so uncommon, or do you try to become 6th or 1st when you compete?


    Hehe, in school in norway 6 is the best, but in university 1 is the best, so i guess it can be used both ways :)

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    Coldplayer
    zaaaach
    • 3. November 2009 um 14:27
    • #4

    Are you from Norway?

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 14:30
    • #5
    Zitat von Coldplayer

    Are you from Norway?

    Genau.

  • Jürgen63
    Gast
    • 3. November 2009 um 17:13
    • #6

    And why are you such interested in the Austrian hockey? Do you live in Vienna actually?

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 17:37
    • #7
    Zitat von Jürgen63

    And why are you such interested in the Austrian hockey? Do you live in Vienna actually?

    Yeah, i live here now. My girl friend was living here and when i visited i always went to see some sports. Rapid..Austria..both nice clubs..but it didnt create any big interest. Capitals however was love at first sight :) Football is ok to see on TV, hockey you need to be in the arena.

  • Jürgen63
    Gast
    • 3. November 2009 um 17:51
    • #8
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    16 Daniel Nageler: 5

    Come from nowhere and is top goalscorer in the team. Bargain of the season!

    Nageler played for the Youth Team of the VSV before he went to Zell ... in the Nationalliga he got more ice-time then he would have in the EBEL and so he was able to improve his skills. Unfortunately the VSV didn't give him a contract for this season so he's playing for the Capitals now ...

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    Coldplayer
    zaaaach
    • 3. November 2009 um 18:29
    • #9
    Zitat von Jürgen63

    Nageler played for the Youth Team of the VSV before he went to Zell ... in the Nationalliga he got more ice-time then he would have in the EBEL and so he was able to improve his skills. Unfortunately the VSV didn't give him a contract for this season so he's playing for the Capitals now ...

    I think it's AWESOME :thumbup:

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 18:42
    • #10
    Zitat von Coldplayer

    I think it's AWESOME :thumbup:


    For sure! I have no idea why he came to Vienna, if i was a young medium-skilled austrian icehockey player i would stay far away from any team that was coached by Gaudet... But it seems to have worked out very well for Nageler.

    My gf is from Villach-region btw. Im just glad she is not from f***ing klagenfurt 8)

  • Eishockeyfreak
    Vielfahrer
    • 3. November 2009 um 19:38
    • #11
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    My gf is from Villach-region btw. Im just glad she is not from f***ing klagenfurt

    Haha. Thats a good joke from you. :D

  • sicsche
    Nightfall
    • 3. November 2009 um 19:45
    • #12
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    if i was a young medium-skilled austrian icehockey player i would stay far away from any team that was coached by Gaudet

    Cant agree 100% with this one, yes young players have a hard time playing at his roster. But Teppert has shown that even a "low-skilled" (no offense on tino, i really like this guy for working so hard) midage austrian player got his chance. But if you are in a team coached by gaudet you really have to go 120% especially as a young gun. Imho Nageler exactly did this.

  • gm99
    Biertrinker
    • 3. November 2009 um 19:45
    • #13
    Zitat von ofiskaa


    My gf is from Villach-region btw. Im just glad she is not from f***ing klagenfurt 8)

    What? And she didn't stop you from becoming a Caps fan? Baaad girlfriend :P

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 20:22
    • #14
    Zitat von sicsche


    Cant agree 100% with this one, yes young players have a hard time playing at his roster. But Teppert has shown that even a "low-skilled" (no offense on tino, i really like this guy for working so hard) midage austrian player got his chance. But if you are in a team coached by gaudet you really have to go 120% especially as a young gun. Imho Nageler exactly did this.

    Yes, Teppert is one player who has been given the chance. Judex and Lederer i think will disagree with you...But maybe Gaudet is changing too, it is not possible to be succesful with 2 good lines, a poor 3rd line and a non-excisting 4th line. This year he has been forced to give the youth a chance..and they have taken it!

    Zitat von gm99

    What? And she didn't stop you from becoming a Caps fan? Baaad girlfriend :P

    Hehe, there are limits to what a girl friend can influence :) But i was among the VSV fans on the christmas-derby against KAC last year. Very nice experience!

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    Coldplayer
    zaaaach
    • 3. November 2009 um 20:50
    • #15
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    Hehe, there are limits to what a girl friend can influence :) But i was among the VSV fans on the christmas-derby against KAC last year. Very nice experience!

    But still - you have to admit - the Caps' Plastik-Experience is better. Especially down 2:0 nothing against the leader, with barely 2 lines and still winning it. This team has balls... Plastik-Balls made of steal. And they will prove it this year in the playoffs. :thumbup:

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 21:02
    • #16
    Zitat von Coldplayer


    But still - you have to admit - the Caps' Plastik-Experience is better. Especially down 2:0 nothing against the leader, with barely 2 lines and still winning it. This team has balls... Plastik-Balls made of steal. And they will prove it this year in the playoffs. :thumbup:


    Embarrising to say this on a hockeyforum, but i was in the Stadthalle watching the tennisfinal...

    (But ive seen the match twice recorded from Sky after ;-))

  • coach
    YNWA
    • 3. November 2009 um 21:30
    • #17
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    My gf is from Villach-region btw. Im just glad she is not from f***ing klagenfurt

    and we are glad to have you here, but i think it´s better for you to try a second start with the vienna football-teams :P

  • KAC-Lennon
    EBEL
    • 3. November 2009 um 21:35
    • #18
    Zitat von Coldplayer

    But still - you have to admit - the Caps' Plastik-Experience is better. Especially down 2:0 nothing against the leader, with barely 2 lines and still winning it. This team has balls... Plastik-Balls made of steal. And they will prove it this year in the playoffs. :thumbup:

    Oh ... and where did you steal them from? ;)

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 3. November 2009 um 23:36
    • #19
    Zitat von w.p.14


    and we are glad to have you here, but i think it´s better for you to try a second start with the vienna football-teams :P


    Hehe, must be rapid then. Was always the team i followed when i was a kid after Everton beat them in the cupfinal 1985, but no...there is no KAC to dislike in the footie.

    Are there any Capitals-fans (or others) who disagree with my marks? Or are the all spot on??

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    Coldplayer
    zaaaach
    • 4. November 2009 um 00:29
    • #20
    Zitat von KAC-Lennon

    Oh ... and where did you steal them from? ;)

    Funny typo... when I wrote it I was especially thinking about that one and yet I got it wrong. Da steh ich drüber :P

  • Eva
    auf den Hund gekommen
    • 4. November 2009 um 09:48
    • #21

    Mostly I agree with your grading, but:

    17 Lukas Draschkowitz: 2
    Doesnt seem to be ready for EBEL.

    I think, he is ready allright & will prove it soon. I saw him in a pre-season match and he was rather good there (better than his brother), but then he got injured on the hand and could'nt play fo weeks.  

    13 Patrick Lebeau: 1
    God, how bad he was before the injury! Must come back after this injury or else his career is over. Capitals should consider options here.

    As far as we know, he sufferd a lot of pain playing before his ellbow-operation, so that might be the reason for his poor performance.

    As to Gaudet : for me he definitely is a good coach. Just look at what he makes them play - a handfull oldies and a handfull youngsters!

    He can not afford Judex or Lederer for another year - they had their chances for two years. That's enough, because there is no Farm-Team where they could try and try and try ...And this is not Gaudet's fault !!

    [winke] Eva

    P.S. Where are you from in Norway - it's a wonderfull country. I spent my holidays there three years long, travelling the whole country up and down - amazing.

  • ofiskaa
    Wir sind die Caps!
    • 4. November 2009 um 10:32
    • #22
    Zitat von Eva

    Mostly I agree with your grading, but:

    17 Lukas Draschkowitz: 2
    Doesnt seem to be ready for EBEL.

    I think, he is ready allright & will prove it soon. I saw him in a pre-season match and he was rather good there (better than his brother), but then he got injured on the hand and could'nt play fo weeks.

    13 Patrick Lebeau: 1
    God, how bad he was before the injury! Must come back after this injury or else his career is over. Capitals should consider options here.

    As far as we know, he sufferd a lot of pain playing before his ellbow-operation, so that might be the reason for his poor performance.

    As to Gaudet : for me he definitely is a good coach. Just look at what he makes them play - a handfull oldies and a handfull youngsters!

    He can not afford Judex or Lederer for another year - they had their chances for two years. That's enough, because there is no Farm-Team where they could try and try and try ...And this is not Gaudet's fault !!

    [winke] Eva


    P.S. Where are you from in Norway - it's a wonderfull country. I spent my holidays there three years long, travelling the whole country up and down - amazing.

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    You could very well be right about Lukas, but Lebeau is soon 40 years old. Even if he comes back from this injury, what is next? He doesnt strike me as a player who has a great natural fitness or strength. I will not be surprised if the 4 points on Lebeau is used on a new player in january...

    Gaudet..Gaudet..what to say? After i went to KAC and VSV on the away trip i was impressed, he is a better coach on away matches than at home. His plan about playing deep and go for quick counter attacks worked to perfection. But there are 2 worries i have:

    - The playoff games is a different sport than to play Jesenice (no disrespect) in a league match. Last year Capitals almost went out against a very average Graz team and was humiliated against Salzburg. I couldnt see any signs of any good coaching (apart from one time out in match 5 against Graz).

    - The matches against KAC and Salzburg. Gaudet has a very poor record against both of these teams in his time in Vienna, BUT 2 wins in a row against RBS and last against KAC...maybe things are turning and he is starting to solve the mystery how to play against them. That said, the quality of these 2 teams this seasoin cant be compared to last year.

    Capitals play a very atractive hockey at home (maybe a bit too naive?) and some of the players Gaudet has brought in has been outstanding, so it is not all bad, but i doubt he will ever lead Capitals to success in the final.

    Anyway..norway! I come from a place close to Stavanger on the south west coast. Not far from the Preikestolen (norw. für Kanzel oder wörtlich Predigtstuhl). If you havent been there yet, pay that area a visit :) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen

    Stavanger is of course the home of Viking Stavanger, who beat Austria Wien in the UEFA cup 2004 and of the icehockeyteam Stavanger Oilers :)

  • Eva
    auf den Hund gekommen
    • 4. November 2009 um 12:06
    • #23
    Zitat von ofiskaa

    Anyway..norway! I come from a place close to Stavanger on the south west coast. Not far from the Preikestolen (norw. für Kanzel oder wörtlich Predigtstuhl). If you havent been there yet, pay that area a visit :) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen

    Stavanger is of course the home of Viking Stavanger, who beat Austria Wien in the UEFA cup 2004 and of the icehockeyteam Stavanger Oilers

    I've allready been up to Preikestollen - fascinating !!!

    It's years ago now..., as to Stavanger - we spent a night there, it's a nice place, I liked Gamle Stavanger and still remember a dinner at Skagen (I'm not sure, if I got the Name correct). Anyway, I really do like your home country.

    [winke] Eva

  • richienough
    EBEL
    • 4. November 2009 um 12:57
    • #24

    Das letzte Caps-Spiel, das ich gesehen habe ist schon etwas länger her (Caps vs. Graz 3:5), da ich danach auf Urlaub war. In dieser Zeit waren immerhin nur eine Niederlage auswärts gegen den VSV und nicht unbedingt vorhersehbare Siege wie auswärts gegen Salzburg und KAC. Daher habe ich mir gestern die EBEL Statistik näher zu Gemüte geführt und hier einige Fakten zusammengefasst:

    Cassivi ist gemessen an der Menge seiner Einsätze und seiner Saves mittlerweile der Drittbeste Goalie der Liga und mit 91,5% hat er auch schon einen ganz guten Saves-Percentage

    Die Caps sind zweitbestes Away-Team und nur 4. in der Heimtabelle

    Die Caps haben nie mehr als 2 Spiele hintereinander verloren

    Außerdem haben die Caps gemeinsam mit den Graz 99ers am wenigsten Tore kassiert

    Und am drittmeisten Tore geschossen. Der beste Torschütze mit 9 Toren ist mit D-Rod allerdings nur 11. Im Liga-Ranking, was auf eine mannschaftlich sehr ausgeglichene Offensivleistung schließen lässt

    Daniel Nageler ist gemeinsam mit D-Rod bester Caps Torschütze mit 9 Toren

    Lakos ist für mich ein bissl unerwartet offensichtlich wieder böse geworden (4. In der EBEL Strafen Statistik mit 61 Minuten, davon allerdings 2 10-minütige und eine 5-minütige nach dem Motto: wenn schon, denn schon). Gratton hat am meisten 2-Minuten-Strafen und auch die zweitmeisten der Liga.

    Bennoit Gratton führt die EBEL Punkte-Liste an

    Das Caps Unterzahlspiel könnte bald das drittbeste der Liga sein

    Marc Tropper hat erst 3 Tore geschossen, gleichzeitig aber +9. Daraus schließe ich aber eher, dass er in einer starken Linie spielt (meist mit Gratton), weil mir nämlich nicht aufgefallen wäre, dass er defensiv so stark ist

    Darcy Werenka beweist eindeutig, dass er nicht zum alten Eisen gehört (19 Punkte/+9), was für mich eindeutig beweist, dass speziell bei ihm darauf geachtet werden sollte, dass er nicht zu viel Eiszeit bekommt, weil er war gegen Ende der letzten Saison eindeutig schlechter

    Rafael Rotter hat schon 6 Tore geschossen. Die meisten offensichtlich in meiner Abwesenheit

    Wie gesagt, das ist meiner Interpretation der aktuellen EBEL Statistik. Daraus wage ich jetzt einfach mal folgende Behauptung:

    Würde das Caps Powerplay mehr dem Liga-Schnitt entsprechen, wären sie mit ihren restlichen sehr guten Werten Tabellen-Erster. Nachdem die Verletztenliste hoffentlich bald wieder schrumpfen wird (die Ligapause kommt gerade richtig) und dann wieder einige spielstarke Leistungsträger vor allem im Powerplay zur Verfügung stehen, könnte durch besseres Powerplay dieser Fall also bald eintreten.

    Das ist meine zugegeben sehr optimistische Prognose für die restliche Spielzeit. Ich freu mich aufs nächste Spiel.

  • sicsche
    Nightfall
    • 4. November 2009 um 13:13
    • #25

    Denke du hast die Zahlen gut gelesen, nur einen Punkt musst dir vor Augen führen.
    Trotz Lazarett nur 2 Punkte hinter Platz 1. Da is das PP wohl eher nur ein kleiner Mosaikstein am Weg nach vorn ;)

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