For those of you who dont like Benoit Gratton...

1. offizieller Beitrag

    ..i guess you will find some pleasure in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIw0gbVZS4c

    Comments: Fedoruk is skating through center ice when he gets pushed in the back and then from the front. The Hab pushing him from the front was Gratton. Todd drops the mitts, throws a right and drops Gratton. Other Penalties: Fedoruk received an instigator, misconduct and game misconduct; Aaron Asham a roughing and game misconduct. Benoit Gratton did not receive a fighting major.

    http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/73/fightcard/reg2002

    You can say a lot about Gratton, but he sure is brave :) (But bravery and stupidity is often close related...)

    Well, i definitely do not believe Benoit stupid.

    I like him very much and imo he is the MVP of Vienna Capitals.

    [winke] LG Eva

    And just three days later Fedoruk shows another actual EBEL-Player how it´s done. Although Sean Brown had some nice hits in that fight.

    Fedoruk - Brown

    Maybe Fedoruk would be a good choice for Villach. (and yes i know that this is never going to happen)

    Zitat von Eva

    Well, i definitely do not believe Benoit stupid.

    I like him very much and imo he is the MVP of Vienna Capitals.

    [winke] LG Eva

    By all means, i didnt mean to imply that Gratton is stupid...he just is over-hard sometimes, which i think he might regret in th playoffs when the other teams will try to injure him (like Graz did to Lebeau last season).

    Personally i love Gratton and i would give up a kidney for him, but i dont always agree with his choices. He might be the best player in EBEL, he doesnt need to do things like that, it shouldnt be his role in the team.

    Zitat von ofiskaa


    Personally i love Gratton and i would give up a kidney for him, but i dont always agree with his choices. He might be the best player in EBEL, he doesnt need to do things like that, it shouldnt be his role in the team.


    Agree.

    Yet, I think it's getting better by the time... although they (all teams) try to provoke him, mostly he just turns his back on them.

    [winke] Eva

    Zitat von Eva

    Yet, I think it's getting better by the time... although they (all teams) try to provoke him, mostly he just turns his back on them.
    [winke] Eva

    Of course the innocent Benoit with the Bambi-Look and all the bad, bad hunters in the dark EBEL forest. :rolleyes:

    Zitat von ridinggiants84

    Of course the innocent Benoit with the Bambi-Look and all the bad, bad hunters in the dark EBEL forest.

    And every day, week and every year the great, sensible announcements from the federal state where hockey play was invented ;)

    3 Mal editiert, zuletzt von onetimer79 (21. Oktober 2009 um 14:31)

    Zitat von onetimer79

    and every day,Weeks and Years the great sensible announcements from the federal state where hockey play was invented ;)

    Come on, you´ve got to admit that Eva´s depiction is barely objective and true. So is mine, of course, but showing that was the point.

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von ridinggiants84 (21. Oktober 2009 um 15:42)

    Benoit is provoked the whole match about enough, but also distributes enough. This is hockey just sometimes. He never has and will differently never play.
    He is a smaller player, with his physically hard play he compensates the dimensions difference in comparison to tall opponents.
    Some hate him, I love the type Player he once is.

    Lg Onetimer [winke]

    Zitat von ridinggiants84

    Come on, you´ve got to admit that Eva´s depiction is barely objective and true. So is mine, of course, but showing that was the point.

    She isnt completly wrong imho. Everyone knows that he has short temper and is someone who can lay out some heavy hits, sometimes a bit beyond the rules.
    But its something normal for me to send some guys after this type of player. Its easy to get him out of the game, just provoke him until he explodes ending up fighting. Maybe you loose one player due this action, but at the same time you get of an opponent key player. Which coach wouldnt try to do so?

    For example -> Caps @ VSV: Lakos vs Ferland, it was an intelligent decision by Lakos to accept the fight. Losing him didnt hurt as much as Ferland did for Villach.

    Zitat von ridinggiants84

    Of course the innocent Benoit with the Bambi-Look and all the bad, bad hunters in the dark EBEL forest.


    I haven't say anything about innocent and Bambi-Look (but there is something about that ^^ ) - what I mean is: it's getting better .. and that's true!

    Good for him - bad for the others :whistling: .

    [winke] Eva

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Eva (21. Oktober 2009 um 15:29)

    Zitat von sicsche

    She isnt completly wrong imho. Everyone knows that he has short temper and is someone who can lay out some heavy hits, sometimes a bit beyond the rules.
    But its something normal for me to send some guys after this type of player. Its easy to get him out of the game, just provoke him until he explodes ending up fighting. Maybe you loose one player due this action, but at the same time you get of an opponent key player. Which coach wouldnt try to do so?

    For example -> Caps @ VSV: Lakos vs Ferland, it was an intelligent decision by Lakos to accept the fight. Losing him didnt hurt as much as Ferland did for Villach.


    You are absolutely right, but it is dangerous for Capitals to have a potential "bomb" as their most important player. All the other teams will know this and go for Gratton in the playoffs..either to make him fight or to make him injured. And with the current situation of centers in Capitals it would be almost impossible to win a playoffseries without Gratton on at least 90% performance. Both offence and defence would hurt a lot if Gratton went missing...he has been on the ice on 4 goals against in 15 matches...an incredible number.

    When you lose a player like Lebeau is only affects the offensive part...Personally i think Capitals shouldnt wait for Lebeau to become well again, get in a new player. He is too old anyway.

    sorry i dont think so.
    if Pat comes back it will prove again to the whole league to which achievement he in the state is, although he is 39 years old.
    what concerns Benoit I partially agree with you, but: a team also needs such players like it is just Benoit even if he exaggerates on occasion and about the borders of the permissible .The Ebel League would need more such players like him.

    Lg Onetimer

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    Zwar ein alter Thread - aber der gestrige Artikel aus dem Kurier passt ganz gut:

    Zitat

    Natürlich habe ich noch Schmerzen", sagt Benoît Gratton. So einen Crosscheck im Kopfbereich steckt man nicht so einfach weg. "Mein Genick ist noch ganz schön steif", erzählt der 33-Jährige. Linz-Verteidiger Robert Lukas hatte dem Kanadier letzten Sonntag nach dessen Siegestor zum 1:0-Sieg bei den Oberösterreichern doch tatsächlich seinen Schläger über das Haupt gezogen.

    Zwölf Spiele muss der Wiener im Trikot der Black Wings dafür pausieren. Gratton fehlte deswegen bei der Gala seiner Kollegen gegen den Meister aus Salzburg. Mit 7:1 schossen die Capitals die erschreckend schwachen Red Bulls aus der mit 4150 Zuschauern gut gefüllten Schultz-Halle.

    Der Heißläufer
    Es war nicht das erste Mal, dass Gratton in dieser Saison hart attackiert wurde. "Es stimmt, heuer bekomme ich mehr ab", sagt der Kapitän der Capitals. "Wenn du so austeilst wie ich, musst du auch damit leben, dass es die Gegner hin und wieder auf dich abgesehen haben", sagt Familienvater Gratton.

    Nicht nur das. Gratton ist technisch stark und geht keinem Zweikampf aus dem Weg. Diese Kombination macht den Frankokanadier zu einem der besten, weil komplettesten Spieler der Liga. Aber auch zu einem der am meisten gehassten. Einer, der namentlich nicht genannt werden will, meint gar: "Ihn hasst die ganze Liga. Er wird sicher noch ein paar abbekommen."

    Aber nicht alle Kontrahenten schlagen in die selbe Kerbe. "Man braucht gar nicht nachsehen, ob Gratton auf dem Eis ist, weil man ihn ohnehin ständig hört", erklärt Markus Peintner. "Er schreit, raunzt, schimpft und jubelt in einer unglaublichen Lautstärke." Dazu gesteht der Graz-Stürmer: "Ich habe großen Respekt vor Gratton und bin vorsichtig, wenn er auf dem Eis ist."

    er ist sicher einer der besten spieler in der EBEL, wobei in seiner ersten saison stand er zumindest für nen außenstehenden doch im schatten von Lebeau,
    mein lieblingsspieler wird er aber trotzdem nimma werden ;)